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I don't like email. Keep in mind my workflow is much more likely to result in you ending up in a new task focused group or with a new message in a group vs a 1

I don't like email. Keep in mind my workflow is much more likely to result in you ending up in a new task focused group or with a new message in a group vs a 1:1 DM.

efdee 4y ago
This pretty much demonstrates the problem most people have with your approach: it isn't about you - it's about the wellbeing of the people you work with. Also, 'just turn off notifications' isn't a solution. Having to ignore messages from your superior puts people in a very uncomfortable position. Granted I know very little about you other than the tiny bits of information gathered in this post, so take it with a grain of salt, but I've worked with people exhibiting similar attitudes and it is extremely toxic.
- steveBK123 4y ago
  Yup. "just ignore your boss" is usually considered a CLM (Career Limiting Move)
steveBK123 4y ago
Yes, and being on the receiving end of that behavior, I hate it. And in slack it is very hard to manage other than turning off all notifications and just shrugging your shoulders. I can't mark individual messages for followup easily, so I have to leave entire DMs/groups/channels unread.. missing subsequent messages. I end up in 50 different channels, 30 different DM groups and 20 1:1 DMs over the course of a week. Some conversations span 5 different channels/DMs as people are added/removed.. Outlook would just have one nice threaded email on the subject. Slack I end up with 5 little red dots on my channel browser pane.. it's a mess. I've now had to institute a policy for myself on escalations that is - if it doesn't come through PagerDuty, it's not an incident or urgent. This in theory, by official policy is correct. In practice, this is like a union slowing down the trains..
steveBK123 4y ago
OK one more! Beyond out of hours.. A huge huge problem with slack versus email is out-of-office behaviors. In outlook, I set myself OOO in calendar, create a scheduled OOO response with active dates and audience types to respond / not respond to (internal/external). It's like 3 clicks, and defaults to the same message I always use, and I have to set myself OOO in calendar already anyway so people don't book meetings / my boss knows I am out. In Slack, I mark myself away, set my status to OOO, put a stupid little palm try icon up, disable notifications and... AND I still get people blasting me with DMs as if I am working. I come back to a mess of unreads I need a couple hours to unwind as I scroll up channels/DMs/etc. Users can even force notifications through against my will (except that I disabled them at OS level :-) ). Slack needs an OOO response tool, and even the ability to block senders to go a step further.

I don't like email. Keep in mind my workflow is much more likely to result in you ending up in a new task focused group or with a new message in a group vs a 1:1 DM.

efdee 4y ago

This pretty much demonstrates the problem most people have with your approach: it isn't about you - it's about the wellbeing of the people you work with. Also, 'just turn off notifications' isn't a solution. Having to ignore messages from your superior puts people in a very uncomfortable position. Granted I know very little about you other than the tiny bits of information gathered in this post, so take it with a grain of salt, but I've worked with people exhibiting similar attitudes and it is extremely toxic.

steveBK123 4y ago
Yup. "just ignore your boss" is usually considered a CLM (Career Limiting Move)

steveBK123 4y ago

Yes, and being on the receiving end of that behavior, I hate it. And in slack it is very hard to manage other than turning off all notifications and just shrugging your shoulders. I can't mark individual messages for followup easily, so I have to leave entire DMs/groups/channels unread.. missing subsequent messages. I end up in 50 different channels, 30 different DM groups and 20 1:1 DMs over the course of a week. Some conversations span 5 different channels/DMs as people are added/removed.. Outlook would just have one nice threaded email on the subject. Slack I end up with 5 little red dots on my channel browser pane.. it's a mess. I've now had to institute a policy for myself on escalations that is - if it doesn't come through PagerDuty, it's not an incident or urgent. This in theory, by official policy is correct. In practice, this is like a union slowing down the trains..

steveBK123 4y ago

OK one more! Beyond out of hours.. A huge huge problem with slack versus email is out-of-office behaviors. In outlook, I set myself OOO in calendar, create a scheduled OOO response with active dates and audience types to respond / not respond to (internal/external). It's like 3 clicks, and defaults to the same message I always use, and I have to set myself OOO in calendar already anyway so people don't book meetings / my boss knows I am out. In Slack, I mark myself away, set my status to OOO, put a stupid little palm try icon up, disable notifications and... AND I still get people blasting me with DMs as if I am working. I come back to a mess of unreads I need a couple hours to unwind as I scroll up channels/DMs/etc. Users can even force notifications through against my will (except that I disabled them at OS level :-) ). Slack needs an OOO response tool, and even the ability to block senders to go a step further.