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I think the recent SCOTUS changes are all about core values, whether it's bodily autonomy, separation of church and state, indigenous rights, right of a suspect

I think the recent SCOTUS changes are all about core values, whether it's bodily autonomy, separation of church and state, indigenous rights, right of a suspect to know their rights, or the double-speak of states' rights when it comes to states limiting violent crime. At least some of that probably touches on your core values, however you state them. The partisan court has shown us how clearly the country is split along partisan lines. We are not the same. And I am neither of those two partisan factions.

brewdad 4y ago
Unfortunately, one side wants to destroy our democracy while the other is completely feeble and inept at even pushing back against them. You still need to pick a side in our first past the post elections. Sitting independently in the middle is to sit and watch the world burn.
- andrekandre 4y ago
  > Unfortunately, one side wants to destroy our democracy while the other is completely feeble and inept at even pushing back against them you know whats interesting (and im not an advocate of this view point at all but) thats exactly what i hear from people who watch fox/tucker/daily wire/oan all day... i hear alot of things like: we are being oppressed, they (leftists) control all the media, the dems took our election (democracy) away,big-tech are communists that want to destroy america... they are very motivated because of those points...
  - mbostleman 4y ago
    Exactly. The objection to and the definition of unfairness is the same. What differs is the facts which allow us to agree on who is being unfair to who. To me, the former is values, the latter is not.
    - andrekandre 4y ago
      yep, facts that are different on different sides, and this makes it extremely hard to find what is really going on for a lot of people... its why these media machines are so damaging; people cant/dont talk to each other and discern what is real and what isnt... they just get it stovepiped to them in one direction.

brewdad 4y ago

Unfortunately, one side wants to destroy our democracy while the other is completely feeble and inept at even pushing back against them. You still need to pick a side in our first past the post elections. Sitting independently in the middle is to sit and watch the world burn.

andrekandre 4y ago
> Unfortunately, one side wants to destroy our democracy while the other is completely feeble and inept at even pushing back against them you know whats interesting (and im not an advocate of this view point at all but) thats exactly what i hear from people who watch fox/tucker/daily wire/oan all day... i hear alot of things like: we are being oppressed, they (leftists) control all the media, the dems took our election (democracy) away,big-tech are communists that want to destroy america... they are very motivated because of those points...
- mbostleman 4y ago
  Exactly. The objection to and the definition of unfairness is the same. What differs is the facts which allow us to agree on who is being unfair to who. To me, the former is values, the latter is not.
  - andrekandre 4y ago
    yep, facts that are different on different sides, and this makes it extremely hard to find what is really going on for a lot of people... its why these media machines are so damaging; people cant/dont talk to each other and discern what is real and what isnt... they just get it stovepiped to them in one direction.