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It's not smug to observe that someone ported MVC to JavaScript. It's a lot of work to build.

• jonkoops 4y ago
  Except it's not MVC.
  • pier25 4y ago
    React would be the V in MVC, no? I mean, even Vue takes its name from that (pronounced "view").
    • lmm 4y ago
      There are no controllers in the react way of doing things, or at least no separation between view and controller if that's your perspective.
      • mpweiher 4y ago
        Well, the role of Controllers in (real) MVC is actually pretty limited.
        • lmm 4y ago
          At that point you're defining MVC so broadly as to be meaningless.
          • mpweiher 4y ago
            No, I am using the original definition of MVC. https://folk.universitetetioslo.no/trygver/themes/mvc/mvc-index.html https://folk.universitetetioslo.no/trygver/themes/mvc/mvc-in...
• dan-robertson 4y ago
  There were a lot of “MVC in JavaScript” frameworks before react. I don’t think that’s really a useful description of react or of the work or idea involved.
• phailhaus 4y ago
  Backbone and Marionette were MVC for the web, and they have basically died out. React is a child of the Flux architecture philosophy, also developed by Facebook. [1] [1] http://fluxxor.com/what-is-flux.html http://fluxxor.com/what-is-flux.html EDIT: I lied, React came first. Still, they have a lot of similarities, being developed by the same company.
  • wruza 4y ago
    MVC examples in this article do not represent MVC in Cocoa. E.g. last time I checked cocoa tables were bound to array controllers, which controlled filtering, available actions etc. Not to bare models. Older-style cocoa mvc rendering was also based on the view<->controller connection, which may act as a “store” or do something more sophisticated, depending on what you write in delegate methods. These comparison graphs always involve some “head & shoulders” vs “grey regular shampoo” style narrative.
    • mpweiher 4y ago
      Well yes: Apple MVC also isn't really MVC. See: https://blog.metaobject.com/2015/04/model-widget-controller-mwc-aka-apple.html https://blog.metaobject.com/2015/04/model-widget-controller-... However, sufficiently MVC for the purposes of the post.
      • wruza 4y ago
        The article points at issues with “regular MVC” which do not exist in Cocoa way of doing it. So no, not sufficiently.
        • mpweiher 4y ago
          None of my articles points at issues with "regular MVC"
  • acemarke 4y ago
    > React is a child of the Flux architecture philosophy FWIW, this isn't actually the case. React was first announced in 2013: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/React_(JavaScript_library) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/React_(JavaScript_library) The "Flux Architecture" was first announced a year later, in 2014: - https://youtu.be/nYkdrAPrdcw https://youtu.be/nYkdrAPrdcw React's original influences were things like Facebook's internal PHP-based UI definition layers: https://reactjs.org/blog/2016/09/28/our-first-50000-stars.html https://reactjs.org/blog/2016/09/28/our-first-50000-stars.ht...
• jnash 4y ago
  The React architecture is very different from MVC.