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To reach 87% of the perf of a 12900K at a max clock of 3.2 GHz versus the 12900K‘s monstrous 5.2 GHz, the M1 has something like a 75% IPC advantage. Are you se
by msbarnett 4y ago
To reach 87% of the perf of a 12900K at a max clock of 3.2 GHz versus the 12900K‘s monstrous 5.2 GHz, the M1 has something like a 75% IPC advantage.
Are you seriously claiming that you expect a single node shrink from Intel 10nm (roughly equivalent to TSMC 7nm) to Intel 7nm (equivalent TSMC 5nm, the M1’s node) to give Intel an enormous 75% increase in IPC such that they’d be able to compete on performance per watt by not having to clock so stratospherically high (with the attendant voltage penalties) to compensate for their low IPC?
That would be an unprecedented outcome for several node shrinks, let alone a single one. It’s Apple’s super-wide design that’s the primary factor in the IPC here. To pin it all on a single node shrink is magical thinking.
- SilverBirch 4y agoI'm not claiming that I think the parent's claim is true, but Intel really fucked up 10nm, and I mean worse than they fucked up the shrink to 14nm which fundamentally changed their unit economics. So let's be clear, it's not like the good old days where Intel might get ahead by moving to 65nm earlier. TSMC 5nm is competing against Intel 10nm at a point where Intel 10nm can't really beat Intel 14nm. I know the actual measurements are bullshit (I've got flak for complaining about angstroms before) but TSMC 5nm is a long way ahead.