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As someone with family from the Dalton area, I would warn against trivializing the difference between Greene's district (NW corner of the state) and places wher

As someone with family from the Dalton area, I would warn against trivializing the difference between Greene's district (NW corner of the state) and places where sane people tend to congregate in larger numbers. People I love have lived there, but it's exactly the kind of place where three out of four people would think voting for Marjorie Taylor Greene is a good idea. Marietta is a cultural Mecca, comparatively, not to mention Atlanta.

rayiner 4y ago
> Marietta is a cultural Mecca, Whose culture?
- selimthegrim 4y ago
  For someone who claims to have lived in Atlanta, you should be able to answer this one.
  - rayiner 4y ago
    Carpetbaggers? Seriously, though. I love Atlanta. But OP's implication that MGT's district lacks a "culture" is exactly the sort of rhetoric that got her elected. That sort of talk makes people mad and justifiably so.
    - justin66 4y ago
      > But OP's implication that MGT's district lacks a "culture" is exactly the sort of rhetoric that got her elected. That sort of talk makes people mad and justifiably so. The notion that the people in that district did not have it in them to elect a right-wing conspiracy theorist prior to some sort of recent national culture war / media phenomenon is entirely mistaken. edit: that's not to trivialize some of the other stuff that's going on nationally... I suspect the national culture warriors actually do explain why MGT's campaigns are funded as well as they are.
      - rayiner 4y ago
        Politics isn’t about what people “have in them.” It’s about everyone pursing their perceived self interest. If you attack a group of people, they will consolidate ranks and fight back. And they will throw their weight behind leaders that they perceive as fighters. This is especially true of honor cultures like in the American south. I’m reminded about the speech George W. Bush gave after 9/11: https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/20.... I think liberals don’t fully understand the genius of this speech. He wasn’t just moralizing to Americans to tell them not to take out their anger on Muslims. He was giving Muslim Americans an opportunity to reaffirm their Muslim identity while giving them a vocabulary to talk about the ones who did evil in the name of Islam. Contrast this against the rhetoric the media in New York uses against people in the rural south anytime something bad happens there. They portray it as a confirmation of the bad things that New Yorkers already believed about southern culture.
        justin66 4y ago
        My initial objection was about the culture you experienced further south vs the culture in MTG's district, which always struck me as a pretty culturally unique place (in addition to being the carpet capital of the world). You riffed on the part of my comment that was a joke (re: Marietta and ATL). I disagree with you less than might have been obvious, particularly because I've had relatives make the move north and experience some discrimination.
        qubitcoder 4y ago
        I can assure you there are many people who reside in MTG's district and find her deplorable, reprehensible, and an embarrassment--both locally and nationally. Source: I live in her district. And work for an outstanding software company that's headquartered there.
        justin66 4y ago
        Indeed, and I try to remember not to needlessly give people too much crap about their representatives because I realize that as much as I dislike them, it's quite possible they dislike them in a much more personal way. There's plenty of consolation to be found in that state right now, I would think. In the same election you guys voted in a black pastor and a Jewish journalist to the US Senate. I wish my father could have seen that.
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rayiner 4y ago

> Marietta is a cultural Mecca, Whose culture?

selimthegrim 4y ago
For someone who claims to have lived in Atlanta, you should be able to answer this one.
- rayiner 4y ago
  Carpetbaggers? Seriously, though. I love Atlanta. But OP's implication that MGT's district lacks a "culture" is exactly the sort of rhetoric that got her elected. That sort of talk makes people mad and justifiably so.
  - justin66 4y ago
    > But OP's implication that MGT's district lacks a "culture" is exactly the sort of rhetoric that got her elected. That sort of talk makes people mad and justifiably so. The notion that the people in that district did not have it in them to elect a right-wing conspiracy theorist prior to some sort of recent national culture war / media phenomenon is entirely mistaken. edit: that's not to trivialize some of the other stuff that's going on nationally... I suspect the national culture warriors actually do explain why MGT's campaigns are funded as well as they are.
    - rayiner 4y ago
      Politics isn’t about what people “have in them.” It’s about everyone pursing their perceived self interest. If you attack a group of people, they will consolidate ranks and fight back. And they will throw their weight behind leaders that they perceive as fighters. This is especially true of honor cultures like in the American south. I’m reminded about the speech George W. Bush gave after 9/11: https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/20.... I think liberals don’t fully understand the genius of this speech. He wasn’t just moralizing to Americans to tell them not to take out their anger on Muslims. He was giving Muslim Americans an opportunity to reaffirm their Muslim identity while giving them a vocabulary to talk about the ones who did evil in the name of Islam. Contrast this against the rhetoric the media in New York uses against people in the rural south anytime something bad happens there. They portray it as a confirmation of the bad things that New Yorkers already believed about southern culture.
      - justin66 4y ago
        My initial objection was about the culture you experienced further south vs the culture in MTG's district, which always struck me as a pretty culturally unique place (in addition to being the carpet capital of the world). You riffed on the part of my comment that was a joke (re: Marietta and ATL). I disagree with you less than might have been obvious, particularly because I've had relatives make the move north and experience some discrimination.
        qubitcoder 4y ago
        I can assure you there are many people who reside in MTG's district and find her deplorable, reprehensible, and an embarrassment--both locally and nationally. Source: I live in her district. And work for an outstanding software company that's headquartered there.
        justin66 4y ago
        Indeed, and I try to remember not to needlessly give people too much crap about their representatives because I realize that as much as I dislike them, it's quite possible they dislike them in a much more personal way. There's plenty of consolation to be found in that state right now, I would think. In the same election you guys voted in a black pastor and a Jewish journalist to the US Senate. I wish my father could have seen that.

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