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So the answer to "who gets to be the one who decides this", remains "the one writing the code" and "the one choosing what to install", independent of each other

by Latty 4y ago

So the answer to "who gets to be the one who decides this", remains "the one writing the code" and "the one choosing what to install", independent of each other. While it's true no one can stop you telling people they should be working on what you want and not what they find valuable, you sound like a petulant child demanding people do things for you.

jrm4 4y ago
Sorry, your name calling here doesn't hold up at all. How they operate directly affects my work. I onboard people to Linux and this Wayland discrepancy is an annoyance I'd rather not deal with. What I'm doing is pretty similar to dealing with, e.g. a land developer putting up a big shopping center near my quiet neighborhood. I don't have much legal recourse here, but someone who speaks against it isn't childish.
- Latty 4y ago
  You write off the things other people care about as "pathetic" elsewhere (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31973526 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31973526) in this thread, your point of view seems to boil down to "things I care about should be tailored to, and other people's cares are worthless", which yes, is pretty childish.
  - jrm4 4y ago
    I'll happily defend it. I believe a free/open source desktop OS that's easy for "regular" people to use is VERY important. One of the "selling" points is "stuff doesn't break, it will work the same way it does today as it will tomorrow." This could improve the user experience for a lot of people, this could get more people interested in tech, this could save a lot of e-waste. Again, this isn't mere ideas for me -- I do this with lots of people all the time. Now sure, you could get on your tech high horse and say "well, all those newbs should catch up." Yes, I think the people who focus too strongly on comparatively small things like fractional scaling aren't seeing the bigger picture. And that is pathetic.
    - Latty 4y ago
      Except regular people want to be able to watch a video without screen tearing, or use their nice new monitor at a resolution that suits their needs without the UI being tiny/huge. It doesn't matter if the user experience is consistent, if it is consistently not what they need, they'll still switch away. Not breaking stuff is a great goal, but it is a trade off, there is a cost to supporting the old, and it isn't always worth paying. Just sounds like your priorities don't line up with the people actually paying and doing the work. Your attempts to convince that it's a better option by telling them they are stupid actually are misguided if you think that'll actually work.

by Latty 4y ago

jrm4 4y ago

Sorry, your name calling here doesn't hold up at all. How they operate directly affects my work. I onboard people to Linux and this Wayland discrepancy is an annoyance I'd rather not deal with. What I'm doing is pretty similar to dealing with, e.g. a land developer putting up a big shopping center near my quiet neighborhood. I don't have much legal recourse here, but someone who speaks against it isn't childish.

Latty 4y ago
You write off the things other people care about as "pathetic" elsewhere (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31973526 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31973526) in this thread, your point of view seems to boil down to "things I care about should be tailored to, and other people's cares are worthless", which yes, is pretty childish.
- jrm4 4y ago
  I'll happily defend it. I believe a free/open source desktop OS that's easy for "regular" people to use is VERY important. One of the "selling" points is "stuff doesn't break, it will work the same way it does today as it will tomorrow." This could improve the user experience for a lot of people, this could get more people interested in tech, this could save a lot of e-waste. Again, this isn't mere ideas for me -- I do this with lots of people all the time. Now sure, you could get on your tech high horse and say "well, all those newbs should catch up." Yes, I think the people who focus too strongly on comparatively small things like fractional scaling aren't seeing the bigger picture. And that is pathetic.
  - Latty 4y ago
    Except regular people want to be able to watch a video without screen tearing, or use their nice new monitor at a resolution that suits their needs without the UI being tiny/huge. It doesn't matter if the user experience is consistent, if it is consistently not what they need, they'll still switch away. Not breaking stuff is a great goal, but it is a trade off, there is a cost to supporting the old, and it isn't always worth paying. Just sounds like your priorities don't line up with the people actually paying and doing the work. Your attempts to convince that it's a better option by telling them they are stupid actually are misguided if you think that'll actually work.