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I'm tired of people saying Chicago is like John Wick and Mad Max had a violence baby. Can't count how many times the people saying this live in rural areas tha

I'm tired of people saying Chicago is like John Wick and Mad Max had a violence baby. Can't count how many times the people saying this live in rural areas that have, per capita, higher violent crime rates than Chicago. The city has its problems, as all American cities do, but it is a wonderful place with amazing people and a ton to offer. Except for the winters. Those are awful.

KerrAvon 4y ago
I’ve visited Chicago a few times (not in winter, though), and I loved it. Maybe my favorite American big city. Great people, fascinating architecture, middle finger to TFG tower along the river. Also, I never got crimed.
- phil21 4y ago
  Best summer city in the world, in my not so humble opinion on the matter. Fall is pretty fun too. Winter is a definite meh.
bcrosby95 4y ago
A while back I had some of my relatives ask me if we were doing OK with all the rapes happening in California. I had no clue what the hell they were talking about.
- alisonatwork 4y ago
  This has happened to me numerous times based on prejudices people have about other countries or regions. But the funniest thing is that it even happens when you travel from one small town to the next small town, as has been parodied in comedies from The Simpsons to Corner Gas. I think it's a fairly basic fear to see places you don't visit often as threatening. For some reason it doesn't seem to be quelled by the easily verifiable fact that plenty of people live perfectly adequate lives in the other place.
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- drewcoo 4y ago
  "Oh, that? We just turn the radio up and it doesn't bother us."
swader999 4y ago
Unfortunately this didn't age well.
- michaelchisari 4y ago
  I sincerely hope you're not referring to the Highland Park active shooter. First off, not Chicago. Highland Park is almost 20 miles outside of the city. With a median household income of $100k and a violent crime rate 4x lower than the rest of Illinois and nationwide. Your comment is unnecessary.
sbf501 4y ago
I'm not from Chicago, but all I ever hear about is the murder rate being higher than most countries. It's like that is the only thing people do in Chicago: go out and murder each other.
- michaelchisari 4y ago
  Because the US murder rate is so much higher than most countries. Chicago isn't in the top 10 for murders per capita in the US. It's not even top 20. Chicago is #28. https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/44/ https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-ci... Granted it's way too high, but ask yourself why we don't take about Little Rock or Chattanooga or Richmond this way.
  - sbf501 4y ago
    I'm asking myself, but I don't know why. Only have a theory Koch brothers something something fairness in reporting act something something...
  - treis 4y ago
    I think it's going to be my life's work to get people to stop making these comparisons. The difference in the size of city limits makes them meaningless. Chicago is geographically huge and includes a large swath of suburbs. Other city limits are much smaller and include all of the bad areas without the suburbs to dilute the per capita numbers.
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hi5eyes 4y ago
yeah the general impression of chicago must be so inaccurate after today
- michaelchisari 4y ago
  Once again, not relevant. Reposting: First off, not Chicago. Highland Park is almost 20 miles outside of the city. With a median household income of $100k and a violent crime rate 4x lower than the rest of Illinois and nationwide. Your comment is unnecessary. The only point to be made here is about the US having a unique problem with mass shooters. Which has nothing to do with Chicago's general crime rate.
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the_only_law 4y ago
I feel like People experience or learn about a place once and that paints their view of it for years to come. Someone else in this thread mentioned the Simpsons and I can't help think about the episode where Homer was vehemently against going to New York, because he had been there in the 70s when it was at its worst.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  The Chicago thing isn't from experience, it's from people who've never lived in Chicago repeating it over and over again. The victims of violence in Chicago are not the white people citing it on TV.
  - robonerd 4y ago
    The Chicago thing is because every summer the national media see fit to report on local crime news from Chicago every time they have an eyepopping number of homicides a week, which is most weeks. I've never lived in Chicago and I don't care about their crime, but the national media won't shut up about it.
  - slowking2 4y ago
    There are parts of Chicago that are really nice, but also parts that are notably worse than the “bad” part of most cities. A lot of the area around UChicago itself was very sketchy compared to any other university area I’ve been to. This was about 5-10 years ago. Maybe it’s improved since although I’d be surprised. It’s not random happenstance that people who have never been are more likely to be afraid of Chicago than New York nowadays.
    - kbelder 4y ago
      That was my impression. Beautiful city, shining buildings, and then you walk a few blocks too far in any direction and you're in a very rough, very rundown poor-seeming neighborhood. There was a very clear line demarcating the areas. As opposed to, say, New York, which is nice but a little grimy everywhere. Or San Francisco, which is, you know.
djbusby 4y ago
Oakland, CA has more violent crime than Chicago - and never gets national news coverage. Why?
- res0nat0r 4y ago
  "Crime in Chicago" is a rightwing racist dog-whistle now, and so common that is a reliable standby they use now when wanting to fearmonger.
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brewdad 4y ago
It was less than an hour after today's events when right-wing Twitter was saying "LOL, Chicago" when Highland Park is the polar opposite of the Chicago they love to blame.

KerrAvon 4y ago

I’ve visited Chicago a few times (not in winter, though), and I loved it. Maybe my favorite American big city. Great people, fascinating architecture, middle finger to TFG tower along the river. Also, I never got crimed.

phil21 4y ago
Best summer city in the world, in my not so humble opinion on the matter. Fall is pretty fun too. Winter is a definite meh.

bcrosby95 4y ago

A while back I had some of my relatives ask me if we were doing OK with all the rapes happening in California. I had no clue what the hell they were talking about.

alisonatwork 4y ago
This has happened to me numerous times based on prejudices people have about other countries or regions. But the funniest thing is that it even happens when you travel from one small town to the next small town, as has been parodied in comedies from The Simpsons to Corner Gas. I think it's a fairly basic fear to see places you don't visit often as threatening. For some reason it doesn't seem to be quelled by the easily verifiable fact that plenty of people live perfectly adequate lives in the other place.
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drewcoo 4y ago
"Oh, that? We just turn the radio up and it doesn't bother us."

swader999 4y ago

Unfortunately this didn't age well.

michaelchisari 4y ago
I sincerely hope you're not referring to the Highland Park active shooter. First off, not Chicago. Highland Park is almost 20 miles outside of the city. With a median household income of $100k and a violent crime rate 4x lower than the rest of Illinois and nationwide. Your comment is unnecessary.

sbf501 4y ago

I'm not from Chicago, but all I ever hear about is the murder rate being higher than most countries. It's like that is the only thing people do in Chicago: go out and murder each other.

michaelchisari 4y ago
Because the US murder rate is so much higher than most countries. Chicago isn't in the top 10 for murders per capita in the US. It's not even top 20. Chicago is #28. https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/44/ https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-ci... Granted it's way too high, but ask yourself why we don't take about Little Rock or Chattanooga or Richmond this way.
- sbf501 4y ago
  I'm asking myself, but I don't know why. Only have a theory Koch brothers something something fairness in reporting act something something...
- treis 4y ago
  I think it's going to be my life's work to get people to stop making these comparisons. The difference in the size of city limits makes them meaningless. Chicago is geographically huge and includes a large swath of suburbs. Other city limits are much smaller and include all of the bad areas without the suburbs to dilute the per capita numbers.
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hi5eyes 4y ago

yeah the general impression of chicago must be so inaccurate after today

michaelchisari 4y ago
Once again, not relevant. Reposting: First off, not Chicago. Highland Park is almost 20 miles outside of the city. With a median household income of $100k and a violent crime rate 4x lower than the rest of Illinois and nationwide. Your comment is unnecessary. The only point to be made here is about the US having a unique problem with mass shooters. Which has nothing to do with Chicago's general crime rate.
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the_only_law 4y ago

I feel like People experience or learn about a place once and that paints their view of it for years to come. Someone else in this thread mentioned the Simpsons and I can't help think about the episode where Homer was vehemently against going to New York, because he had been there in the 70s when it was at its worst.

pessimizer 4y ago
The Chicago thing isn't from experience, it's from people who've never lived in Chicago repeating it over and over again. The victims of violence in Chicago are not the white people citing it on TV.
- robonerd 4y ago
  The Chicago thing is because every summer the national media see fit to report on local crime news from Chicago every time they have an eyepopping number of homicides a week, which is most weeks. I've never lived in Chicago and I don't care about their crime, but the national media won't shut up about it.
- slowking2 4y ago
  There are parts of Chicago that are really nice, but also parts that are notably worse than the “bad” part of most cities. A lot of the area around UChicago itself was very sketchy compared to any other university area I’ve been to. This was about 5-10 years ago. Maybe it’s improved since although I’d be surprised. It’s not random happenstance that people who have never been are more likely to be afraid of Chicago than New York nowadays.
  - kbelder 4y ago
    That was my impression. Beautiful city, shining buildings, and then you walk a few blocks too far in any direction and you're in a very rough, very rundown poor-seeming neighborhood. There was a very clear line demarcating the areas. As opposed to, say, New York, which is nice but a little grimy everywhere. Or San Francisco, which is, you know.

djbusby 4y ago

Oakland, CA has more violent crime than Chicago - and never gets national news coverage. Why?

res0nat0r 4y ago
"Crime in Chicago" is a rightwing racist dog-whistle now, and so common that is a reliable standby they use now when wanting to fearmonger.
- rhexs 4y ago
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brewdad 4y ago

It was less than an hour after today's events when right-wing Twitter was saying "LOL, Chicago" when Highland Park is the polar opposite of the Chicago they love to blame.