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I can annicdote many instances that support your purported sarcasim. Only recently had disagreement with two officers who thought something was a civil law iss

by Zenst 4y ago

I can annicdote many instances that support your purported sarcasim. Only recently had disagreement with two officers who thought something was a civil law issue and not their domain when it was actually a common law issues and for context was fraud related. Of note I esculated to their managment who confirmed they were wrong and I was right.

daniel-cussen 4y ago
And the management was police as well, chain of command, perhaps a sheriff. There you go. A third police officer said you were right, without you... Going to ACLU or others to sue the Police Department, or going to Internal Affairs, or any of the new legislation they have to follow or other emasculations. Simple stuff, two said you were wrong, you escalated, and you were found to be right. Doesn't work that badly in real life.
- Zenst 4y ago
  Yes but 99% of the populas would trust the police to know the law and as such would of accepted their mistake as a rule. Luckly I'm a bit more knowledgable in the law and why I pushed the point. So for most people, it wouldn't of worked out well.
dontbenebby 4y ago
>Of note I esculated to their managment And you made it out of that interaction without anyone threatening your life or beating you up? Salud on a peaceful response to your bravery.
- Zenst 4y ago
  Police in that respect fine in the UK, now the crakhead junies below me who is a protected police informer - well they get away with murder...litteraly :( In process of big outing of Met Police issues, failings, negligence and sheer incompetance. But they are on notice already.
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    It's astounding how long the Met have apparently kept a continuity of corruption over generations. From what I've read I doubt that this can be seriously uprooted.
samhw 4y ago
What do you mean ‘a civil law issue and not a common law issue’? The UK’s civil laws[0] are very largely composed of common law; the two concepts are orthogonal, not opposites, and both or one or neither can easily be true at once. A common law issue could be either civil or criminal and says nothing about whether it’s the police’s domain (which obviously would entail its being criminal law). [0] In the only one of two ways that you could possibly be using the word ‘civil’ in this context, given we don’t have a civil law legal tradition.

by Zenst 4y ago

daniel-cussen 4y ago

And the management was police as well, chain of command, perhaps a sheriff. There you go. A third police officer said you were right, without you... Going to ACLU or others to sue the Police Department, or going to Internal Affairs, or any of the new legislation they have to follow or other emasculations. Simple stuff, two said you were wrong, you escalated, and you were found to be right. Doesn't work that badly in real life.

Zenst 4y ago
Yes but 99% of the populas would trust the police to know the law and as such would of accepted their mistake as a rule. Luckly I'm a bit more knowledgable in the law and why I pushed the point. So for most people, it wouldn't of worked out well.

dontbenebby 4y ago

>Of note I esculated to their managment And you made it out of that interaction without anyone threatening your life or beating you up? Salud on a peaceful response to your bravery.

Zenst 4y ago
Police in that respect fine in the UK, now the crakhead junies below me who is a protected police informer - well they get away with murder...litteraly :( In process of big outing of Met Police issues, failings, negligence and sheer incompetance. But they are on notice already.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  It's astounding how long the Met have apparently kept a continuity of corruption over generations. From what I've read I doubt that this can be seriously uprooted.

samhw 4y ago

What do you mean ‘a civil law issue and not a common law issue’? The UK’s civil laws[0] are very largely composed of common law; the two concepts are orthogonal, not opposites, and both or one or neither can easily be true at once. A common law issue could be either civil or criminal and says nothing about whether it’s the police’s domain (which obviously would entail its being criminal law). [0] In the only one of two ways that you could possibly be using the word ‘civil’ in this context, given we don’t have a civil law legal tradition.