> It's the same with Apple's M1. I don't know anyone who is using it. "I can't believe Nixon won. I don't know anyone who voted for him." Yes, a misquotation

> It's the same with Apple's M1. I don't know anyone who is using it. "I can't believe Nixon won. I don't know anyone who voted for him." Yes, a misquotation, but still. The Java/JVM world has dived into it. Java is all JVM code and it's platform-independent, and unlike, say, Python, the Java world never dived that heavily into native-interface code that tied them to a specific instruction set, they built a faster JVM instead of going out to native code. M1 is so good you can get better performance on a M1 MBA with significantly longer battery life compared to an i9 MBP of the previous generation. Same for average users who don't do any of the developer things - HN itself is a bubble and most users don't know or care the uarch is different at all, they just know a base-tier M1 feels better than an i9, and they're right. > So I would expect an AMD CPU on TSMCs 5nm to be pretty close in terms of performance per watt. It's just that the mainstream market isn't willing to pay the premium price for 5nm yet Apple and AMD are going to be on the same node this year.