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Sue, I guess. Seems like they would settle quickly because fighting tens of thousands of lawsuits would look bad. And, maybe anyway cost more than settling.

by ncmncm 4y ago

yreg 4y ago
That's why they hired the 'hard core street fighter litigation team'…
- klyrs 4y ago
  But he promised to use them only for good, not for evil! (I may have just strained my eye-rolling muscle)
tintor 4y ago
Unless Tesla owners agreed to Forced Arbitration with Tesla, when buying their vehicle.
- amluto 4y ago
  IANAL, but I expect that the killer lawsuit will come from the estate of someone killed by a Tesla who doesn’t own a Tesla. No contract = no arbitration or much leeway for Tesla to claim that the driver should have known better.
  - salawat 4y ago
    The fact the arbitration is even a short circuit for the courts is absolutely ludicrous.
  - ncmncm 4y ago
    That probably will not get this unhappy customer his "FSD" fee back.
    - amluto 4y ago
      No, but a $5bn personal injury case might actually get Tesla’s attention. I’m not at all familiar with the relevant law, but I imagine the FTC could sue to force a refund of the FSD charges.
MarkMarine 4y ago
I think for the money I’d be in small claims court against the skill of Tesla’s legal team, I’ll get washed so I don’t think it’s worth my time. Honestly, I didn’t even want full FSD. Tesla dropped the price of my car by 10k after I’d purchased but before I took delivery, they gave me this as a way to smooth it over so I didn’t just cancel my delivery, eat the 2k fee and re-order saving myself 8k. I didn’t trust Musk to deliver on his promises, but that was 2018-19. In my wildest dreams I didn’t imagine it would be 2022 and they just fired the team doing it, and I still don’t even have access to a beta test.
- ncmncm 4y ago
  Common practice among corporations in small-claims court is to default, because just showing up would cost more. It is worth a try.

Sue, I guess. Seems like they would settle quickly because fighting tens of thousands of lawsuits would look bad. And, maybe anyway cost more than settling.

by ncmncm 4y ago

Sue, I guess. Seems like they would settle quickly because fighting tens of thousands of lawsuits would look bad. And, maybe anyway cost more than settling.

yreg 4y ago

That's why they hired the 'hard core street fighter litigation team'…

klyrs 4y ago
But he promised to use them only for good, not for evil! (I may have just strained my eye-rolling muscle)

tintor 4y ago

Unless Tesla owners agreed to Forced Arbitration with Tesla, when buying their vehicle.

amluto 4y ago
IANAL, but I expect that the killer lawsuit will come from the estate of someone killed by a Tesla who doesn’t own a Tesla. No contract = no arbitration or much leeway for Tesla to claim that the driver should have known better.
- salawat 4y ago
  The fact the arbitration is even a short circuit for the courts is absolutely ludicrous.
- ncmncm 4y ago
  That probably will not get this unhappy customer his "FSD" fee back.
  - amluto 4y ago
    No, but a $5bn personal injury case might actually get Tesla’s attention. I’m not at all familiar with the relevant law, but I imagine the FTC could sue to force a refund of the FSD charges.

MarkMarine 4y ago

I think for the money I’d be in small claims court against the skill of Tesla’s legal team, I’ll get washed so I don’t think it’s worth my time. Honestly, I didn’t even want full FSD. Tesla dropped the price of my car by 10k after I’d purchased but before I took delivery, they gave me this as a way to smooth it over so I didn’t just cancel my delivery, eat the 2k fee and re-order saving myself 8k. I didn’t trust Musk to deliver on his promises, but that was 2018-19. In my wildest dreams I didn’t imagine it would be 2022 and they just fired the team doing it, and I still don’t even have access to a beta test.

ncmncm 4y ago
Common practice among corporations in small-claims court is to default, because just showing up would cost more. It is worth a try.