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>If I recall correctly, both GNOME and Unity shared rejection from a number of users Of course GNOME fanboys complained that someone dared to replace their pre

>If I recall correctly, both GNOME and Unity shared rejection from a number of users Of course GNOME fanboys complained that someone dared to replace their precious DE with a nicer Qt based one instead of kissing the ass of giant ego GNOME designers. Even when Ubuntu got back to GNOME Canonical listen to the users and put features back in on Ubuntu.

ginko 4y ago
Actually, I think most Gnome 2 refugees eventually settles with XFCE or Mate. I did at least. ..wonder what I'll do after the Gnome team kills XFCE by enforcing Wayland for GTK.
- simion314 4y ago
  I am not sure if most, but there were a lot of happy Unity users , but the DE got of lot of hate , much more hate then other GNOME forks or alternatives, Probably Ubuntu/Canonical haters just found another project to attack and seen it as Canonical inventing something new instead of letting RedHat inventing shit and kissing TH ass and follow them.
  - reidrac 4y ago
    I profoundly dislike all that "hater" rhetoric. Sure, there will always be trolls, but by tagging any dissenting opinion as "Ubuntu/Canonical haters" I feel like there's a lost opportunity to improve. You can't please everybody, but both Unity an GNOME shell had some very bad ideas, and it took too long to correct course (and in some cases it didn't happen). I believe some of the criticism came from people that really loved those DE, and that's why they were passionate about it. When people don't care, they just use something else.
    - simion314 4y ago
      Come one, Arch users complaining that Ubuntu was not using SystemD was not honest, the Arch users were not using Ubuntu or Upstart to have a clue what they are talking about. And related with SystemD debate, you have alot of people that are not system admins or can't write a C program or a good bash scrip[t having an opinion because they read a blog post , I wish we all can't determine when we have no idea and just abstain. So about SystemD , I have no idea if is better or worse, my experience with init systems is almost zero so I should shut up. There were a lot of hather, sure there were some valid criticism but you can't invalidate the fact they were haters, and if we would want to waste our time we could read those old topics and find them but we have better things to do.
- CoastalCoder 4y ago
  I really disliked Unity, and hated the fact that Canonical was pushing it down my throat. IIRC I used Mate as a temporary solution, and happily jumped to Cinnamon when it came out. Nowadays I use Pop Shell because (at least when I switched) it seemed to offer better widgets for controlling audio, etc. on my System76 machine.
  - simion314 4y ago
    >I really disliked Unity, and hated the fact that Canonical was pushing it down my throat. But we KDE users should we hate Canonical that they were pushing GNOME? I did not hated them for this though I am puzzled why not create Unity based on KDE libraries (probably there were many reasons some including Qt and C++ are ugly)

ginko 4y ago

Actually, I think most Gnome 2 refugees eventually settles with XFCE or Mate. I did at least. ..wonder what I'll do after the Gnome team kills XFCE by enforcing Wayland for GTK.

simion314 4y ago
I am not sure if most, but there were a lot of happy Unity users , but the DE got of lot of hate , much more hate then other GNOME forks or alternatives, Probably Ubuntu/Canonical haters just found another project to attack and seen it as Canonical inventing something new instead of letting RedHat inventing shit and kissing TH ass and follow them.
- reidrac 4y ago
  I profoundly dislike all that "hater" rhetoric. Sure, there will always be trolls, but by tagging any dissenting opinion as "Ubuntu/Canonical haters" I feel like there's a lost opportunity to improve. You can't please everybody, but both Unity an GNOME shell had some very bad ideas, and it took too long to correct course (and in some cases it didn't happen). I believe some of the criticism came from people that really loved those DE, and that's why they were passionate about it. When people don't care, they just use something else.
  - simion314 4y ago
    Come one, Arch users complaining that Ubuntu was not using SystemD was not honest, the Arch users were not using Ubuntu or Upstart to have a clue what they are talking about. And related with SystemD debate, you have alot of people that are not system admins or can't write a C program or a good bash scrip[t having an opinion because they read a blog post , I wish we all can't determine when we have no idea and just abstain. So about SystemD , I have no idea if is better or worse, my experience with init systems is almost zero so I should shut up. There were a lot of hather, sure there were some valid criticism but you can't invalidate the fact they were haters, and if we would want to waste our time we could read those old topics and find them but we have better things to do.
CoastalCoder 4y ago
I really disliked Unity, and hated the fact that Canonical was pushing it down my throat. IIRC I used Mate as a temporary solution, and happily jumped to Cinnamon when it came out. Nowadays I use Pop Shell because (at least when I switched) it seemed to offer better widgets for controlling audio, etc. on my System76 machine.
- simion314 4y ago
  >I really disliked Unity, and hated the fact that Canonical was pushing it down my throat. But we KDE users should we hate Canonical that they were pushing GNOME? I did not hated them for this though I am puzzled why not create Unity based on KDE libraries (probably there were many reasons some including Qt and C++ are ugly)