6 ms·
With the demographics of HN and some of the topics that come up often (e.g., Linux, privacy, nostalgia for old-school forums, weird little micro-optimizations o
by OmarAssadi 4y ago
With the demographics of HN and some of the topics that come up often (e.g., Linux, privacy, nostalgia for old-school forums, weird little micro-optimizations of peoples' lifestyles to achieve the "best" possible way to do a certain thing, etc.), I have always been a little bit surprised to see quite how many people personally use tools like Popcorn Time and how little mention of some forms of filesharing there is.
I think it is worth looking into private trackers for anyone a bit more interested in media than the average person.
- There is almost no need to use any VPN service on these sites.
- Quality control is unmatched; many sites have strict rules on what can be uploaded and general standards of uploads. Often this means that each torrent has mandatory screenshots for video quality comparisons, consistent track orders for bilingual releases, MediaInfo/BDInfo to allow you to know the contents before downloading (e.g., codecs, languages, audio channels, bitrates, etc.), source information to know what version of a film or series you're watching, and full ripping logs in the case of CDs/vinyl, etc.
- There are also usually limited slots for torrents in a particular group (e.g., on some sites, a single film may have one or two 1080P encodes, one or two 720P encodes, one remux of the Blu-ray, and one untouched disc unless there are multiple significantly different masters available), meaning lower-quality releases will be trumped, removing the need to compare releases and pick. You can be confident you are downloading something decent on the first attempt.
- There is a tremendous amount of obscure, foreign, and rare content that cannot be found on public sources or streaming services. As an anecdote, take Ma vie en rose, a Belgian movie I wanted to watch. It wasn't on any streaming services with English subtitles, the American DVD was out of print, and the only HD release at the time was a Blu-ray for the Japanese market without English subs. While it was impossible to find on any public tracker or streaming service, I immediately found someone who took the effort and money to buy the DVDs for the subs, manually OCRed them to SRTs, purchased and ripped the Japanese Blu-ray, and remuxed it with the newly created English subs into a nice, single MKV for easy consumption.
- Almost everything is well-seeded. Private trackers usually incentivize long-term retention of downloads, so regardless of how old something is, you can usually still download a copy.
- The community. Many complain about opening up Netflix to a sea of overwhelming, infinite choices and being stuck just trying to pick anything. An advantage of the niche-specific private trackers compared to streaming services, public trackers, and Usenet, though, is that there are usually "collages" or lists of some sort where users will maintain what is essentially those IMDb lists or the random top-10 article-spam you'll find on Google, except it's all hand-picked content by people who are seriously, genuinely, and perhaps overly interested in the topic you're browsing. I rarely struggle to find something to watch/listen to because I can dial in a specific thing I am after, and someone will usually have already put in the effort of curating a list of the best content I have never heard of.
- And again, with regards to the community, the knowledge is cool. For anyone interested in the technical side of some of these topics, a lot of discussion and information is, unfortunately, locked up on member-only forums (not to mention the resources - e.g., for those interested in anime encoding & fansubbing, some of the Chinese trackers, in particular, are so valuable, be it for the untouched DVDs/Blu-ray sources or the guides and tools).
And don't get me wrong, I don't mean to sound like some insane person. I completely recognize that not everyone wants to/can dedicate the time, there is a barrier to entry, and it may simply not be how most people would like to consume media, etc. I also don't mean for this to sound negative about Popcorn Time -- it is very cool and solves real problems for many people.
I am not that out of touch (I hope); I am just passionate ;-) Consume what you'd like, how you'd like, but I thought it might be worth proselytizing a little while I have the opportunity!
- n4r9 4y agoIf I remember rightly, you can use Popcorn Time to stream any torrent simply by dragging and dropping the link into the application. It doesn't depend on where you get the links, even if it does have a default search engine. Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
- alangibson 4y agoGood private trackers can be hard to get into and easy to get kicked out of. That's probably why you don't hear many people on HN promoting then.
- thematrixturtle 4y agoIt's not terribly hard to find virtually anything you're looking for even on plain old public Pirate Bay.
- herbst 4y agoNot more obscure music, or ex. A lot of German music. It got a lot harder even in the last years
- endorphine 4y agoCan you provide some examples of such private trackers that you'd recommend? I'm mostly interested in music.
- OmarAssadi 4y agoRedacted ("RED") is probably the best place to be nowadays for general music. It is where the majority of people ended up after What.CD, one of the earlier trackers, closed. They have a ton of lossless audio, and you generally have choice in terms of which version of something you would like (e.g., an older release, if you don't like the remasters [1], or want specific deluxe/international editions -- Japanese CDs often come with bonus tracks). They also have very helpful curated collections of similar music and such. Plus, having a RED account tends to help serve as a way to get to other trackers (of course, you should genuinely use the site rather than collecting accounts, etc.). RED is also unique compared to a lot of other decent trackers in that they don't require you to be invited by someone else or already have an account on another site; you can sign up by doing a short interview on their IRC [2]. Worth noting, though, that it'd be best to do it on a Friday night or something when you'd have time to waste; all of these sites are run by volunteers, so it can be a few hours of idling before you'd actually get a chance to sign-up. For East Asian music, like K-pop, J-pop, J-rock, etc., Jpopsuki has the most extensive collection. SugoiMusic is another one, but I haven't checked it out very much. And although it is primarily an eBook site, MyAnonamouse ("MAM") has a fair bit of sheet music, plus they also do IRC sign-ups. Other than that, though, Orpheus ("OPS") is another decent music tracker. But realistically, RED tends to have much more available. However, I do think it's a cool site and I do respect how transparent they are, with even the site being open-source [3]. --- [1]: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war> [2]: <https://interviewfor.red/en/index.html https://interviewfor.red/en/index.html> [3]: <https://github.com/OPSnet https://github.com/OPSnet>