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Is pozidriv not more popular than Philips in the US? Here in NL it’s mostly pozidriv but many people mistake it for Philips. Also here Torx is gaining populari

Is pozidriv not more popular than Philips in the US? Here in NL it’s mostly pozidriv but many people mistake it for Philips. Also here Torx is gaining popularity, I don’t buy anything else except for special needs. Edit: pozidrive -> pozidriv (learned something new today)

leguminous 4y ago
Pretty much the only place you see Pozidriv in the US is Ikea furniture. Almost nobody realizes that it's different from Phillips, which results in some mildly frustrating experiences putting together furniture with the wrong screwdriver. I bought some Pozidriv bits just for Ikea stuff and they work much better. Another similar situation is bicycle derailleurs. Many older Shimano derailleurs have JIS adjustment screws. They are just similar enough to Phillips that it seems like it's working, but it's very easy to damage the screw head. I have heard that they moved to Torx recently.
recursive 4y ago
I have never heard of this. If I've ever encountered it, I definitely mistook it for Philips.
andreareina 4y ago
Phillips, Pozidriv, JIS are the unholy trinity, being just similar enough that mixing them up works but risks stripping the head.
xxs 4y ago
pozidriv practically doesn't exist outside Europe. It still requires proper down pressure which sometimes (ladders) is hard to come by. I prefer (inner) hex for bolts and torx for screws. Torx is ok for bolts too (mostly m4/m5). Standard hex is fine for wood anchors as well. A rather important downside of torx: you can put a smaller torx driver - say T15 in T20 (and esp. T8 and in T10) - that ruins both the bit and the screw head. Hex doesn't suffer from that issue.
- mnw21cam 4y ago
  > pozidriv practically doesn't exist outside Europe. I had to think for a while to remember the last time I saw a Phillips screw here in the UK. Then I remembered - it was about a year ago when I had to take something apart, and I cussed the thing out for having a screw that almost matches the screwdrivers that everyone has, and who even has Phillips screwdrivers these days anyway?
  - nmeofthestate 4y ago
    They still sell Phillips screws in the UK. Drywall screws for example are Phillips (IME).
  - xxs 4y ago
    The UK is very much Europe (I totally didn't mean the EU)

leguminous 4y ago

Pretty much the only place you see Pozidriv in the US is Ikea furniture. Almost nobody realizes that it's different from Phillips, which results in some mildly frustrating experiences putting together furniture with the wrong screwdriver. I bought some Pozidriv bits just for Ikea stuff and they work much better. Another similar situation is bicycle derailleurs. Many older Shimano derailleurs have JIS adjustment screws. They are just similar enough to Phillips that it seems like it's working, but it's very easy to damage the screw head. I have heard that they moved to Torx recently.

recursive 4y ago

I have never heard of this. If I've ever encountered it, I definitely mistook it for Philips.

andreareina 4y ago

Phillips, Pozidriv, JIS are the unholy trinity, being just similar enough that mixing them up works but risks stripping the head.

xxs 4y ago

pozidriv practically doesn't exist outside Europe. It still requires proper down pressure which sometimes (ladders) is hard to come by. I prefer (inner) hex for bolts and torx for screws. Torx is ok for bolts too (mostly m4/m5). Standard hex is fine for wood anchors as well. A rather important downside of torx: you can put a smaller torx driver - say T15 in T20 (and esp. T8 and in T10) - that ruins both the bit and the screw head. Hex doesn't suffer from that issue.

mnw21cam 4y ago
> pozidriv practically doesn't exist outside Europe. I had to think for a while to remember the last time I saw a Phillips screw here in the UK. Then I remembered - it was about a year ago when I had to take something apart, and I cussed the thing out for having a screw that almost matches the screwdrivers that everyone has, and who even has Phillips screwdrivers these days anyway?
- nmeofthestate 4y ago
  They still sell Phillips screws in the UK. Drywall screws for example are Phillips (IME).
- xxs 4y ago
  The UK is very much Europe (I totally didn't mean the EU)