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Wait until you find out about this amazing invention called the train. You can take them at the city center, you stop at the city center, no waiting times, fast

Wait until you find out about this amazing invention called the train. You can take them at the city center, you stop at the city center, no waiting times, faster, safer and cheaper than driving... In all seriousness though, any country serious about climate change should ban short-haul flights.

zeagle 4y ago
Agere, the train station location in most cities is more convenient than the aurport, although not as good as my experiences in Europe. If you want a good laugh of how to do it wrong, look up 'saskatoon train station' on maps.
frosted-flakes 4y ago
The tracks to Ottawa and Montreal are getting updated. The problem is that Via only owns a small portion of the route and is at the mercies of freight traffic. The new dedicated tracks will solve this. Still not high speed though.
b112 4y ago
Last time I took the train, it was more expensive than driving, and took longer too. And certainly far, far slower than a plane could be, with no hours of pre-flight waiting. More comfortable than a plane, with its cramped seating, for sure. Really, a prop plane is not horrible for the environment, especially compared to cars.
- rglullis 4y ago
  If you live in an area with poor rail infrastructure, the solution is to improve it.
  - arpa 4y ago
    any fool can do it! brb, building a railway.
  - b112 4y ago
    Why? Yet before we get into that, you should realise what you've done. This whole thread was just about how sad these exessive delays are. Now I have no problem with diverging threads, my initial comment did just that! However, you're definitely talking about "where you think we should be" vs "right now". And right now, you're saying all short hop flights should be banned. Yet as many have indicated here, that is just not feasable in some cases. Even if you believe rail is always better (it isn't, not for all flights compared to all rail), you actually need rail before banning short hops. And as others have indicated, loads of people driving, instead of short prop plane hops, is worse than that plane ride by far! Is your goal to harm the environment? If not, then "just ban it" isn't sensible. You need to plan first. And really, just ban it means you support just banning all cars, the concept is the same, yet this is literally impossible for many, many reasons. For example, banning all cars would mean an end to rural livability, and a further exodus from rural Canada. Canada, whos crops and meat feed massive parts of the world. Are you planning to force people to farm? Make them stay, and work, if they are entirely isolated without cars? Of not that, then is your goal to cause world wars, and death, and destruction, and likely the release of tailored plagues, and nuclear weapons? Because in a world pf starvarion, the knives come out very fast and strong. Yet this is what wide sweeping car bans could mean, as it is already hard to keep farms manned, and profitable, without banning things from a city centric view. Would you also ban short hops for prop planes, from rural areas too? It would be a disaster to put trains everywhere. Literallly bad for the environment, to run a rail line for 50 people a day. A prop plane is far, far more energy efficient, than maintaining all that rail infrastructure for so few people, through hundreds of km of forest. Just the regular chainsaw usage alone, to prune back trees, makes it worse. What are you thinking?? Hurting the environment like this, suggesting policies which end in plague, nuclear war, death, destruction!! Think of the whole cost, or you may kill us all!!
    - rglullis 4y ago
      We were talking within the context of a connection between Ottawa and Toronto, not some two random corners of Manitoba. Nice try at argumentum ad absurdum, though...
      - 4y ago

zeagle 4y ago

Agere, the train station location in most cities is more convenient than the aurport, although not as good as my experiences in Europe. If you want a good laugh of how to do it wrong, look up 'saskatoon train station' on maps.

frosted-flakes 4y ago

The tracks to Ottawa and Montreal are getting updated. The problem is that Via only owns a small portion of the route and is at the mercies of freight traffic. The new dedicated tracks will solve this. Still not high speed though.

b112 4y ago

Last time I took the train, it was more expensive than driving, and took longer too. And certainly far, far slower than a plane could be, with no hours of pre-flight waiting. More comfortable than a plane, with its cramped seating, for sure. Really, a prop plane is not horrible for the environment, especially compared to cars.

rglullis 4y ago
If you live in an area with poor rail infrastructure, the solution is to improve it.
- arpa 4y ago
  any fool can do it! brb, building a railway.
- b112 4y ago
  Why? Yet before we get into that, you should realise what you've done. This whole thread was just about how sad these exessive delays are. Now I have no problem with diverging threads, my initial comment did just that! However, you're definitely talking about "where you think we should be" vs "right now". And right now, you're saying all short hop flights should be banned. Yet as many have indicated here, that is just not feasable in some cases. Even if you believe rail is always better (it isn't, not for all flights compared to all rail), you actually need rail before banning short hops. And as others have indicated, loads of people driving, instead of short prop plane hops, is worse than that plane ride by far! Is your goal to harm the environment? If not, then "just ban it" isn't sensible. You need to plan first. And really, just ban it means you support just banning all cars, the concept is the same, yet this is literally impossible for many, many reasons. For example, banning all cars would mean an end to rural livability, and a further exodus from rural Canada. Canada, whos crops and meat feed massive parts of the world. Are you planning to force people to farm? Make them stay, and work, if they are entirely isolated without cars? Of not that, then is your goal to cause world wars, and death, and destruction, and likely the release of tailored plagues, and nuclear weapons? Because in a world pf starvarion, the knives come out very fast and strong. Yet this is what wide sweeping car bans could mean, as it is already hard to keep farms manned, and profitable, without banning things from a city centric view. Would you also ban short hops for prop planes, from rural areas too? It would be a disaster to put trains everywhere. Literallly bad for the environment, to run a rail line for 50 people a day. A prop plane is far, far more energy efficient, than maintaining all that rail infrastructure for so few people, through hundreds of km of forest. Just the regular chainsaw usage alone, to prune back trees, makes it worse. What are you thinking?? Hurting the environment like this, suggesting policies which end in plague, nuclear war, death, destruction!! Think of the whole cost, or you may kill us all!!
  - rglullis 4y ago
    We were talking within the context of a connection between Ottawa and Toronto, not some two random corners of Manitoba. Nice try at argumentum ad absurdum, though...
    - 4y ago