> You have a good point that featureful standard library doesn't necessarily result in less boilerplate, but I assumed that you kinda implied it by enumerating

> You have a good point that featureful standard library doesn't necessarily result in less boilerplate, but I assumed that you kinda implied it by enumerating features. Gotcha, I appreciate the back and forth which helped me to clarify that point a bit better :) > What I find most lacking from the C++ standard library is actually coherence. I 100% agree. There are plenty of areas that C++ is very lacking, and I think this comment highlights that. I initially started this thread off because a big complaint I hear among C++ users is the language is a bloated mess, which is why the parent comment saying that C++ had a thin standard library didn't ring true to me. But I think what you're saying here is closer to the truth. It has a lot of good features, but they're mostly after thoughts and poorly integrated. Whereas a language like Rust (or another modern language) has around the same amount of features builtin, but they're more focused, integrated, and planned :)