>Clearly, the majority of hackers disagree with me, so I'm convinced that 90% of Apple's incredibleness is their marketing (not ads, but understanding how to de

>Clearly, the majority of hackers disagree with me, so I'm convinced that 90% of Apple's incredibleness is their marketing (not ads, but understanding how to design and build excellent products which are very well targeted at their audiences). That last sentence there doesn't make much sense at all. How is "understanding how to design and build excellent products which are very well targeted at their audiences" part of marketing? That's straight up design and engineering.