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> It takes more time to type all that negativity Well, good criticism is not negativity, but I'd argue it is positivity.

mikewhy 4y ago
I'm not seeing a lot of "good criticisms" here. Just the typical HN curmudgeons complaining about things that were introduced half a decade ago being too new.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  That seems pretty new actually.
esperent 4y ago
I came to this discussion because I wanted good criticism of ViteJS . I genuinely wanted to see it picked apart by experts because I have been thinking about trying it for a while now. Instead, I'm about 100 comments down and so far all I can see is endless repetition of the same nitpicking complaint that the landing page is not good. The landing page! If you use this tool you'll spend about 5 minutes on the landing page and potentially hundreds or thousands of hours in the code, API, and docs. So who cares about the damn landing page? I want discussion of the actual tool, that's what I come to HN for. There doesn't appear to be much of that happening here, unfortunately. If there was a single comment thread somewhere criticizing the landing page that would be fine, it's a valid complaint. But if pretty much all the top comments are exclusively doing that, or pointing out how pointless a criticism that is (like this one) then this discussion is a failure. EDIT: scrolling further down I appear to have hit the "oh no frontend dev is so complicated, poor me" section of the discussion. I'm gonna keep digging, wish me luck!
zmxz 4y ago
There was no criticism of the tool itself, but how landing page is not instantly clear to developers who are not even frontend-related devs. What's positive about that? A complaint with proposed action is what can be considered positive, but most complaints here were "I am not frontend dev, I clicked the link, I don't understand anything. They need to telepathically understand what I want and make the page that's to my liking". It's just pseudointellectuals trying to pose as experts in a field they're not even working in. And here we are, a bunch of bottom feeders arguing over a landing page in year 2022. Oh, how entitled have we become. This situation is absolutely disgusting and not positive.

mikewhy 4y ago

I'm not seeing a lot of "good criticisms" here. Just the typical HN curmudgeons complaining about things that were introduced half a decade ago being too new.

systemvoltage 4y ago
That seems pretty new actually.

esperent 4y ago

I came to this discussion because I wanted good criticism of ViteJS . I genuinely wanted to see it picked apart by experts because I have been thinking about trying it for a while now. Instead, I'm about 100 comments down and so far all I can see is endless repetition of the same nitpicking complaint that the landing page is not good. The landing page! If you use this tool you'll spend about 5 minutes on the landing page and potentially hundreds or thousands of hours in the code, API, and docs. So who cares about the damn landing page? I want discussion of the actual tool, that's what I come to HN for. There doesn't appear to be much of that happening here, unfortunately. If there was a single comment thread somewhere criticizing the landing page that would be fine, it's a valid complaint. But if pretty much all the top comments are exclusively doing that, or pointing out how pointless a criticism that is (like this one) then this discussion is a failure. EDIT: scrolling further down I appear to have hit the "oh no frontend dev is so complicated, poor me" section of the discussion. I'm gonna keep digging, wish me luck!

zmxz 4y ago

There was no criticism of the tool itself, but how landing page is not instantly clear to developers who are not even frontend-related devs. What's positive about that? A complaint with proposed action is what can be considered positive, but most complaints here were "I am not frontend dev, I clicked the link, I don't understand anything. They need to telepathically understand what I want and make the page that's to my liking". It's just pseudointellectuals trying to pose as experts in a field they're not even working in. And here we are, a bunch of bottom feeders arguing over a landing page in year 2022. Oh, how entitled have we become. This situation is absolutely disgusting and not positive.