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Why? I too think the charges are trumped up, but Stockholm is a possibility until one or both of these women come out with the truth of what actually happened.

by iamdave 15y ago

araneae 15y ago
It's not a possibility, because he did not hold them captive. Stockholm Syndrome only refers to situations where people who are held against their will have positive feelings towards their captors.
- AndyKelley 15y ago
  I'm pretty sure rape constitutes being held against one's will.
  - westicle 15y ago
    I'm pretty sure HN is the only place where a bad pun can spawn pages of earnest analysis and semantic argument.
AndyKelley 15y ago
Sure it's a possibility, but the burden of proof would be on you to demonstrate that it was Stockholm syndrome. You can't get by just claiming possible scenarios that explain something. You have to actually provide evidence that your claim is true (unless you're defending creationism)
- scott_s 15y ago
  That also applies to the proposed conspiracy theory between the two women.
  - mkramlich 15y ago
    apply Occam's razor
  - deleted 15y ago
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yummyfajitas 15y ago
It's also possible Anna Ardin is suffering from multiple personality disorder and one of her alternate personalities threw the party for Assange, tweeted about how cool he is, and invited him to stay with her 4 days after the rape. We could make up all sorts of implausible, but theoretically possible scenarios. But at this point, the most likely possibility seems to be that Ardin and W are jilted lovers who want revenge against Assange.
- iamdave 15y ago
  >We could make up all sorts of implausible, but theoretically possible scenarios. That is the entire point, none of us know with any degree of certainty what has happened, the evidence does not suggest anything concrete for or against the validity of the charges, so to immediately dismiss one way or dismiss the other way is flawed.
- lallysingh 15y ago
  .. or that as his lover, she was convinced to give testimony that lets authorities go after him while simultaneously hurting his reputation. Something very useful if you don't want to prevent further leaks.

Why? I too think the charges are trumped up, but Stockholm is a possibility until one or both of these women come out with the truth of what actually happened.

by iamdave 15y ago

Why? I too think the charges are trumped up, but Stockholm is a possibility until one or both of these women come out with the truth of what actually happened.

araneae 15y ago

It's not a possibility, because he did not hold them captive. Stockholm Syndrome only refers to situations where people who are held against their will have positive feelings towards their captors.

AndyKelley 15y ago
I'm pretty sure rape constitutes being held against one's will.
- westicle 15y ago
  I'm pretty sure HN is the only place where a bad pun can spawn pages of earnest analysis and semantic argument.

AndyKelley 15y ago

Sure it's a possibility, but the burden of proof would be on you to demonstrate that it was Stockholm syndrome. You can't get by just claiming possible scenarios that explain something. You have to actually provide evidence that your claim is true (unless you're defending creationism)

scott_s 15y ago
That also applies to the proposed conspiracy theory between the two women.
- mkramlich 15y ago
  apply Occam's razor
- deleted 15y ago
  [deleted]

yummyfajitas 15y ago

It's also possible Anna Ardin is suffering from multiple personality disorder and one of her alternate personalities threw the party for Assange, tweeted about how cool he is, and invited him to stay with her 4 days after the rape. We could make up all sorts of implausible, but theoretically possible scenarios. But at this point, the most likely possibility seems to be that Ardin and W are jilted lovers who want revenge against Assange.

iamdave 15y ago
>We could make up all sorts of implausible, but theoretically possible scenarios. That is the entire point, none of us know with any degree of certainty what has happened, the evidence does not suggest anything concrete for or against the validity of the charges, so to immediately dismiss one way or dismiss the other way is flawed.
lallysingh 15y ago
.. or that as his lover, she was convinced to give testimony that lets authorities go after him while simultaneously hurting his reputation. Something very useful if you don't want to prevent further leaks.