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Yes? The longer something is public for, the less it is “yours”: people start making it their own, whether through remixes and recreations or just stories they

Yes? The longer something is public for, the less it is “yours”: people start making it their own, whether through remixes and recreations or just stories they want to create. It is good for society to allow ideas that have permeated public consciousness to be built on top of without worrying about legal repercussions.

ztrww 4y ago
Or alternatively there is no more incentive to put any significant effort into creating anything new since anyone can just rehash something that someone else made for much cheaper…
- FractalParadigm 4y ago
  And yet, it already happens today. How many US companies invent something, just to be knocked-off 14-times over by various overseas entities within a year? It's not a once-in-a-while occurrence either, with virtually everything from electronics to fashion getting knocked-off very regularly with little/no repercussions.
Vaslo 4y ago
Sounds good. I'll let you spend all your valuable time creating things. I'll use that same time to do things I want like drinking beer by pool and playing video games. Then when you do all the hard work, I'll come in and use it. You just creating, I'll just keep relaxing and enjoying all your hard work.
- literallyWTF 4y ago
  This is quite literally not what the OP said. But ok I guess?
  - Vaslo 4y ago
    What did he say then. He basically said and I’ll say another way so others understand 1) You spend time creating a great idea for a character or story 2) You get a limited amount of time to capitalize on it 3) I have a multimillion dollar corp where I can take the idea and spend loads of money making it popular through new works I can capitalize on 4) Sorry original creator, it’s now in the public domain very shortly after so womp womp 5) Oh and by the way I am a multibillion dollar company and did the math and I can afford those taxes in the “saner world” that the individual cannot for a longer period, so…. Also works the other way where a small corp spends tons of capital to come up with an idea or story and now they just have to give it for free before they can recoup? Talk about stifling innovation
    - _aavaa_ 4y ago
      That's how things work now. You think having a copyright on something will matter if the multibillion dollar company fights you and drags out the legal process until you run out of money?
      - bdowling 4y ago
        A small creator doesn’t need a lot of money to sue a big corporate entity that infringes their work because (1) the statutory penalties for copyright infringement are intentionally high and (2) lawyers will take cases on a contingent fee basis if there’s a reasonable chance of winning.
    - dmitriid 4y ago
      Context is important. We're talking about Disney the multi-trillion-dollar corp holding copyright for countless works for decades after the original creators died. Yes, in this case, resounding yes: the longer you hold on to something, the more you have to pay (exponentially, if possible). I doubt anyone is really arguing that a creator shouldn't benefit from their works. Mickey Mouse is almost 94 years old now. Guess what. Brothers Grimm published the 7th edition of their tales in 1857. The last of Brothers Grimm died in 1863. Walt Disney released Snow White in 1937, Cinderella in 1950, etc. But sure. Do tell us how we are not allowed to do anything about Mickey Mouse
- Tao3300 4y ago
  > I'll come in and use it. Now you are creating too! See how this works?

ztrww 4y ago

Or alternatively there is no more incentive to put any significant effort into creating anything new since anyone can just rehash something that someone else made for much cheaper…

FractalParadigm 4y ago
And yet, it already happens today. How many US companies invent something, just to be knocked-off 14-times over by various overseas entities within a year? It's not a once-in-a-while occurrence either, with virtually everything from electronics to fashion getting knocked-off very regularly with little/no repercussions.

Vaslo 4y ago

Sounds good. I'll let you spend all your valuable time creating things. I'll use that same time to do things I want like drinking beer by pool and playing video games. Then when you do all the hard work, I'll come in and use it. You just creating, I'll just keep relaxing and enjoying all your hard work.

literallyWTF 4y ago
This is quite literally not what the OP said. But ok I guess?
- Vaslo 4y ago
  What did he say then. He basically said and I’ll say another way so others understand 1) You spend time creating a great idea for a character or story 2) You get a limited amount of time to capitalize on it 3) I have a multimillion dollar corp where I can take the idea and spend loads of money making it popular through new works I can capitalize on 4) Sorry original creator, it’s now in the public domain very shortly after so womp womp 5) Oh and by the way I am a multibillion dollar company and did the math and I can afford those taxes in the “saner world” that the individual cannot for a longer period, so…. Also works the other way where a small corp spends tons of capital to come up with an idea or story and now they just have to give it for free before they can recoup? Talk about stifling innovation
  - _aavaa_ 4y ago
    That's how things work now. You think having a copyright on something will matter if the multibillion dollar company fights you and drags out the legal process until you run out of money?
    - bdowling 4y ago
      A small creator doesn’t need a lot of money to sue a big corporate entity that infringes their work because (1) the statutory penalties for copyright infringement are intentionally high and (2) lawyers will take cases on a contingent fee basis if there’s a reasonable chance of winning.
  - dmitriid 4y ago
    Context is important. We're talking about Disney the multi-trillion-dollar corp holding copyright for countless works for decades after the original creators died. Yes, in this case, resounding yes: the longer you hold on to something, the more you have to pay (exponentially, if possible). I doubt anyone is really arguing that a creator shouldn't benefit from their works. Mickey Mouse is almost 94 years old now. Guess what. Brothers Grimm published the 7th edition of their tales in 1857. The last of Brothers Grimm died in 1863. Walt Disney released Snow White in 1937, Cinderella in 1950, etc. But sure. Do tell us how we are not allowed to do anything about Mickey Mouse
Tao3300 4y ago
> I'll come in and use it. Now you are creating too! See how this works?