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Well… only about 10 years after headlines were fearmongering about the world breaking due to IP addresses not being available.

CharlesW 4y ago
Hardly seems like “fear mongering”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion
- BirAdam 4y ago
  Any given resource, as it becomes more scarce, goes up in price thus preventing there ever being zero of the given resource. The “world ending” result that fear mongering press outlets pushed is therefore not possible.
  - Dagger2 4y ago
    So why did you ever pay any mind to them? The world isn't going to end just because v4 addresses are scarce (...and I don't think anybody was arguing that it would...), but that doesn't make the problems any less real, expensive or damaging.
    - BirAdam 4y ago
      Good question. No idea. Hate reading? I am not certain. Probably should reflect on it a bit.
cranekam 4y ago
The “breakage” is happening. It’s just in the form of crappy solutions like CGNAT and DS-lite to work around the shortage rather than the internet just not working at all.
- kazen44 4y ago
  also, ipv4 address space is becoming intrenched by large players because address pricing is becoming very expensive. Want to start a new service and require global connectivity, good luck winning IPv4 auctions because AWS is buying up all address space, even if they are not using it.
  - BirAdam 4y ago
    They buy it up because they expect it will be needed by their customers, among whom is the US federal government. However, the world did not end, addresses can still be had, and things are still functional. I would say that the doom saying press was alarmist.
- BirAdam 4y ago
  So, people worked around the problem and that world didn’t break.
mort96 4y ago
What fearmongering? There were a bunch of articles about how we were going to run out of IPv4 addresses, and we have now essentially run out of IPv4 addresses. There's a reason everyone is being a dynamic IP address and hosting servers is hard these days.

CharlesW 4y ago

Hardly seems like “fear mongering”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion

BirAdam 4y ago
Any given resource, as it becomes more scarce, goes up in price thus preventing there ever being zero of the given resource. The “world ending” result that fear mongering press outlets pushed is therefore not possible.
- Dagger2 4y ago
  So why did you ever pay any mind to them? The world isn't going to end just because v4 addresses are scarce (...and I don't think anybody was arguing that it would...), but that doesn't make the problems any less real, expensive or damaging.
  - BirAdam 4y ago
    Good question. No idea. Hate reading? I am not certain. Probably should reflect on it a bit.

cranekam 4y ago

The “breakage” is happening. It’s just in the form of crappy solutions like CGNAT and DS-lite to work around the shortage rather than the internet just not working at all.

kazen44 4y ago
also, ipv4 address space is becoming intrenched by large players because address pricing is becoming very expensive. Want to start a new service and require global connectivity, good luck winning IPv4 auctions because AWS is buying up all address space, even if they are not using it.
- BirAdam 4y ago
  They buy it up because they expect it will be needed by their customers, among whom is the US federal government. However, the world did not end, addresses can still be had, and things are still functional. I would say that the doom saying press was alarmist.
BirAdam 4y ago
So, people worked around the problem and that world didn’t break.

mort96 4y ago

What fearmongering? There were a bunch of articles about how we were going to run out of IPv4 addresses, and we have now essentially run out of IPv4 addresses. There's a reason everyone is being a dynamic IP address and hosting servers is hard these days.