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> I felt that conclusion was unwarranted. So she was a 'fake' heiress. Aren't they all? Just jumped-up rich claiming some sort of divine right? Why wasn't she
by ctvo 4y ago
> I felt that conclusion was unwarranted. So she was a 'fake' heiress. Aren't they all? Just jumped-up rich claiming some sort of divine right? Why wasn't she as good as any of them?
In many European countries there's still the concept of nobility[1] with titles, lineage, inheritance and all. It isn't some abstract thing that people choose to believe in or not.
The comment is about a young woman living in NYC who faked being one of these nobles, and used it to defraud people. She went to jail for it[2]. I have no idea what your comment is about or how it ties to any of this.
1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CILANE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CILANE
2 - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17503259/where-is-anna-delvey-now-inventing-real-sorokin/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17503259/where-is-anna-delvey-...
- JoeAltmaier 4y agoThat actually exactly describes some imaginary concept that people choose to believe in or not. I don't believe in it for instance. You don't have to fake having an imaginary special humanness, well any more than the rest are faking anyway.
- elefanten 4y agoYou're missing the point. There is an existing social structure of people who do care about these titles and the titles are often attached to assets or positions of power. To your original point -- she went to jail for committing fraud, as in theft via lying. She did not go to jail for being judged "unworthy" by some dogmatic social circle.
- JoeAltmaier 4y agoI disagree. She went to jail because she claimed to be a magical being, and others thought they knew she wasn't. Consider: would an actual peer have gone to jail? No? Then she went to jail for 'not being a magical person'.
- ctvo 4y agoI honestly can't tell if your series of replies have been GPT-3 generated. She went to jail because she failed to pay for the goods and services she used. They extended her credit because of the false pretenses, but she went to jail for grand larceny. Yes, an actual noble would go to jail for a similar crime.
- JoeAltmaier 4y agoNo an 'actual noble' (whatever the heck that is) might not have even been prosecuted. But how many famous people have avoided jail for similar issues? If you're famous enough it doesn't even go to trial. That's my point. She didn't pass some popularity contest because {reasons} and got prosecuted. Which may likely not have happened to a duchess or whatnot.