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Agreed. The term partner is really not what men are looking for. We’re looking for a wife— take care of my house and children, be attractive and cook. If you’re

Agreed. The term partner is really not what men are looking for. We’re looking for a wife— take care of my house and children, be attractive and cook. If you’re intelligent more the better.

Galaxity 4y ago
That's not true. Sure there are a lot of men that want a traditional wife to take care of the house, etc. But I'm not sure they are the majority of men in 2022. Lots of men out there certainly don't want or care if their wife is a homemaker. I, personally, and many people I know aren't particularly interested in that sort of wife and would prefer a "partner" that that has her own professional and personal life and goals equal to us.
- bergenty 4y ago
  You are woefully out of touch if you think that’s what the majority of men are not looking for and that’s just in the United States. Additionally a woman working does not automatically mean she doesn’t satisfy the other criteria.
- actfrench 4y ago
  It's so affirming to see men speak up and say they are not looking for a traditional housewife. Thank you for speaking up. I'm sure that this doesn't only impact me, but other women reading this.
uxcolumbo 4y ago
Who is we? Speak for yourself… it’s a very outdated view… it’s some sh!tty legacy code frequently causing problems - that badly needs rewriting. And someone more intelligent / independent wouldn’t go for that arrangement you laid out.
- jdthedisciple 4y ago
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  - claydolatry 4y ago
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  - uxcolumbo 4y ago
    I was commenting on this specific wording: "We're looking for a wife— take care of my house and children, be attractive and cook" Who is we in this context? All men? So cooking, taking care of children and being attractive is hard-coded into the biology and psychology of women?
    - jdthedisciple 4y ago
      Seeking those traits in women is hard-coded into men. (Obviously there are exceptions - as with any rule - but do I really need to add this caveat ... ?)
      - uxcolumbo 4y ago
        Is this just your opinion or is it based on scientific research? If the latter - can you share those studies? Are these traits coded in our DNA? I'd like to learn how it's hard-coded in men's DNA that they are looking for women who will cook for them.
        jdthedisciple 4y ago
        I know that it's become the norm for 21st century pseudo-intellectuals to demand "scientific research" for every little thing in life. Fundamentally, you simply won't acknowledge certain self-evident realities for what they are, but I do - and that's where we differ. This is not to say those studies don't exist - I'm often surprised at studies that make me go "duh" because "that's what I've intuitively known all my life". Like some people wouldn't acknowledge the fact that men are inherently much more muscular than women had there not been studies on that. That's one such self-evident reality. So I say: You go keep searching for studies! :) Meanwhile I'm going to keep living in and by self-evident reality. Personally, I find that the predictive power of that is yet to be beaten!
jdthedisciple 4y ago
That's very true.
j4hdufd8 4y ago
Damn, how did you get away with this comment in 2022
- bergenty 4y ago
  Just because it’s current year doesn’t mean our biology changes.
  - actfrench 4y ago
    are you a biologist? I'd love to hear from some who are...
marssaxman 4y ago
Speak for yourself! A partner is exactly what I want. I don't need a cook or a housekeeper; if I did, I'd hire one. I want to be part of a team of equals, or I'd rather be single. I am not speaking hypothetically. It was a real problem for me when my ex-wife lost her job, gave up looking for another, and just... turned herself into a housewife. I could not relate to her anymore. This was not the issue which ultimately broke our marriage, but it certainly didn't help.
- bergenty 4y ago
  You don’t have to be a housewife to fulfill the other criteria.
  - marssaxman 4y ago
    You appear to be mistaking your personal preferences for universal human ideals. This is an easy mistake to make, as the things we want feel obvious and natural; it can be hard to imagine not wanting them, or wanting something contrary. It's OK to want whatever it is you want, but we're all different, and we really do want different things.
    - bergenty 4y ago
      I don’t think so. I feel like you may be in a bubble. I travel a lot for work (within the US) and that seems to be the vast majority.
      - marssaxman 4y ago
        Of course I am - intentionally so! Who cares? You made a sweepingly broad assertion about the nature of male desire, which was simplistic and inadequate. I demonstrated as much by describing my own preferences, as several others here have done. The nature of my social bubble is irrelevant, because I made no claim beyond the bounds of my personal experience. You're in a bubble, too, whether you see its boundaries or not. In order to speak meaningfully about what the "vast majority" of people want, we would need some actual research.
D13Fd 4y ago
This is a super weird attitude to me (a man). I was absolutely looking for a partner, and I did not care even a little whether she cooked. And physical attractiveness is extremely subjective and not the highest on my list (although obviously it is important). But to each their own I guess.
scsilver 4y ago
I mean, thats what you want, I want a thriving adult to share life with.

Agreed. The term partner is really not what men are looking for. We’re looking for a wife— take care of my house and children, be attractive and cook. If you’re intelligent more the better.

Galaxity 4y ago

That's not true. Sure there are a lot of men that want a traditional wife to take care of the house, etc. But I'm not sure they are the majority of men in 2022. Lots of men out there certainly don't want or care if their wife is a homemaker. I, personally, and many people I know aren't particularly interested in that sort of wife and would prefer a "partner" that that has her own professional and personal life and goals equal to us.

bergenty 4y ago
You are woefully out of touch if you think that’s what the majority of men are not looking for and that’s just in the United States. Additionally a woman working does not automatically mean she doesn’t satisfy the other criteria.
actfrench 4y ago
It's so affirming to see men speak up and say they are not looking for a traditional housewife. Thank you for speaking up. I'm sure that this doesn't only impact me, but other women reading this.

uxcolumbo 4y ago

Who is we? Speak for yourself… it’s a very outdated view… it’s some sh!tty legacy code frequently causing problems - that badly needs rewriting. And someone more intelligent / independent wouldn’t go for that arrangement you laid out.

jdthedisciple 4y ago
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- claydolatry 4y ago
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- uxcolumbo 4y ago
  I was commenting on this specific wording: "We're looking for a wife— take care of my house and children, be attractive and cook" Who is we in this context? All men? So cooking, taking care of children and being attractive is hard-coded into the biology and psychology of women?
  - jdthedisciple 4y ago
    Seeking those traits in women is hard-coded into men. (Obviously there are exceptions - as with any rule - but do I really need to add this caveat ... ?)
    - uxcolumbo 4y ago
      Is this just your opinion or is it based on scientific research? If the latter - can you share those studies? Are these traits coded in our DNA? I'd like to learn how it's hard-coded in men's DNA that they are looking for women who will cook for them.
      - jdthedisciple 4y ago
        I know that it's become the norm for 21st century pseudo-intellectuals to demand "scientific research" for every little thing in life. Fundamentally, you simply won't acknowledge certain self-evident realities for what they are, but I do - and that's where we differ. This is not to say those studies don't exist - I'm often surprised at studies that make me go "duh" because "that's what I've intuitively known all my life". Like some people wouldn't acknowledge the fact that men are inherently much more muscular than women had there not been studies on that. That's one such self-evident reality. So I say: You go keep searching for studies! :) Meanwhile I'm going to keep living in and by self-evident reality. Personally, I find that the predictive power of that is yet to be beaten!

jdthedisciple 4y ago

That's very true.

j4hdufd8 4y ago

Damn, how did you get away with this comment in 2022

bergenty 4y ago
Just because it’s current year doesn’t mean our biology changes.
- actfrench 4y ago
  are you a biologist? I'd love to hear from some who are...

marssaxman 4y ago

Speak for yourself! A partner is exactly what I want. I don't need a cook or a housekeeper; if I did, I'd hire one. I want to be part of a team of equals, or I'd rather be single. I am not speaking hypothetically. It was a real problem for me when my ex-wife lost her job, gave up looking for another, and just... turned herself into a housewife. I could not relate to her anymore. This was not the issue which ultimately broke our marriage, but it certainly didn't help.

bergenty 4y ago
You don’t have to be a housewife to fulfill the other criteria.
- marssaxman 4y ago
  You appear to be mistaking your personal preferences for universal human ideals. This is an easy mistake to make, as the things we want feel obvious and natural; it can be hard to imagine not wanting them, or wanting something contrary. It's OK to want whatever it is you want, but we're all different, and we really do want different things.
  - bergenty 4y ago
    I don’t think so. I feel like you may be in a bubble. I travel a lot for work (within the US) and that seems to be the vast majority.
    - marssaxman 4y ago
      Of course I am - intentionally so! Who cares? You made a sweepingly broad assertion about the nature of male desire, which was simplistic and inadequate. I demonstrated as much by describing my own preferences, as several others here have done. The nature of my social bubble is irrelevant, because I made no claim beyond the bounds of my personal experience. You're in a bubble, too, whether you see its boundaries or not. In order to speak meaningfully about what the "vast majority" of people want, we would need some actual research.

D13Fd 4y ago

This is a super weird attitude to me (a man). I was absolutely looking for a partner, and I did not care even a little whether she cooked. And physical attractiveness is extremely subjective and not the highest on my list (although obviously it is important). But to each their own I guess.

scsilver 4y ago

I mean, thats what you want, I want a thriving adult to share life with.