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Not a fan of the guy at all, but if this report is correct it’s just good management, not news. Of course you prefer to eject the worst people when trimming the

by tomcam 4y ago

Not a fan of the guy at all, but if this report is correct it’s just good management, not news. Of course you prefer to eject the worst people when trimming the fat. And there’s a lot of fat there. One thing that has interested me is that my friends are half Chinese nationals who just quietly plod along with no interest in their FAANG jobs, and half highly motivated Westerners who love to talk shop. During the last 2 big meltdowns in 2000 and 2008 no one in either group was affected.

benjaminwootton 4y ago
If your organisation is full of average performers, shouldn’t that be a problem at any time and not just in a recession? If people aren’t working with a sense of urgency as BAU that a management failure? The market and the economy changed, rather than the people, so to turn on your people and try to encourage them out the door is cynical.
- tomcam 4y ago
  My heart is with everything you said. But they did not forecast well at all (even though you and I saw this coming years ago), so they’re just kind of stuck in this position. Not claiming here that I admire Zuckerberg. Not even close. I was just addressing a very specific and unfortunate circumstance.
- salawat 4y ago
  >If people aren’t working with a sense of urgency as BAU that a management failure? If you're doing successfully as a business, you don't need hair on fire urgency all the time. The fact management theory seems to encourage wringing every last drop out of people by setting up a Welchian press is more a consequence of one particular generation's psychotic approach to worker relations. Furthermore, on average, your business should be successful with majorly average performers. No business should be a hot house flower that requires the creme-de-la-creme just to get by. Self-sustaining businesses with strong product market fit practically run themselves. The normalization of crunch and "grinding" of labor of the past few decades has been one of the most pathological social dynamics I've been alive to see.

by tomcam 4y ago

benjaminwootton 4y ago

If your organisation is full of average performers, shouldn’t that be a problem at any time and not just in a recession? If people aren’t working with a sense of urgency as BAU that a management failure? The market and the economy changed, rather than the people, so to turn on your people and try to encourage them out the door is cynical.

tomcam 4y ago
My heart is with everything you said. But they did not forecast well at all (even though you and I saw this coming years ago), so they’re just kind of stuck in this position. Not claiming here that I admire Zuckerberg. Not even close. I was just addressing a very specific and unfortunate circumstance.
salawat 4y ago
>If people aren’t working with a sense of urgency as BAU that a management failure? If you're doing successfully as a business, you don't need hair on fire urgency all the time. The fact management theory seems to encourage wringing every last drop out of people by setting up a Welchian press is more a consequence of one particular generation's psychotic approach to worker relations. Furthermore, on average, your business should be successful with majorly average performers. No business should be a hot house flower that requires the creme-de-la-creme just to get by. Self-sustaining businesses with strong product market fit practically run themselves. The normalization of crunch and "grinding" of labor of the past few decades has been one of the most pathological social dynamics I've been alive to see.