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Unfortunately IE6 is still very popular in the corporate world of Europe. I'm currently running an internal websurvey for a large car rental company and lookin

Unfortunately IE6 is still very popular in the corporate world of Europe. I'm currently running an internal websurvey for a large car rental company and looking at this weeks http logs shows that IE6 is still getting 61% :(

toumhi 15y ago
my logs (for a file sharing solution for businesses in France) show 5.5% for IE6. Maybe because there are more early adopters at the moment? I for sure hope I won't need to spend hundreds of hours supporting IE6...
- thibaut_barrere 15y ago
  hi Tommy! My guess is that most "IE6 only" corporations would not allow using a file-sharing site anyway :) I still maintain one site which is around 70% IE6 (internal stuff in insurance). But one day it will change all at once, for political reasons :) I'm not sure you will see more than what you currently see on the long run...
  - toumhi 15y ago
    oh hi Thibaut :-) good point, I'm not targeting big corporations anyways. I guess the problem could be that even 5% could be a problem, as people sharing files would complain their 5% customers cannot see the files... well, we'll see, no complaints so far ;-)
mattmanser 15y ago
Large car rental companies are not exactly cutting edge on IT. They tend to have a lot of small locations that's not exactly easy to start upgrading because of the cost of sending people out to do it all. My local branches look like they had their last refurb in the late 90s for example. One example does not a sample make.
- draegtun 15y ago
  ... They tend to have a lot of small locations ... These aren't the rental outlets but their main business offices in UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal & Bulgaria! NB. The Bulgarian results shows 71% using IE6 in their main office(s). One example does not a sample make At no point did I say it was relevant outside my sample :)
- tomgallard 15y ago
  It is not just car rental companies. Most of the UK's major banks use IE6 still. This is because most of their intranet apps will only work in IE6, and they have the size to demand that their supplies support IE6 too. Corporate IT policy won't allow browsers apart from IE. If only Microsoft allowed side-by-side installs of IE6 and a IE8 it might be a bit more bearable (given that IE9 is not available on XP)
  - draegtun 15y ago
    This is because most of their intranet apps will only work in IE6, and they have the size to demand that their supplies support IE6 too. Corporate IT policy won't allow browsers apart from IE. And this also seems to be the common case when I've done onsite freelancing gigs in non banking (SMB) UK companies over recent times :(
  - sampo 15y ago
    > This is because most of their intranet apps will only work in IE6 How did it ever happen that IE6 ended up in such a long lasting and dominating position? Was it (I am just guessing here) the coincidence of tho things: (1) IE6 just happened to be the most recent Microsoft browser around the time when most of bigcorps initially build their inter/intranet apps, and (2) because this was the first wave of building such things, the web coders did not bother to think about a future when IE6 is no longer a modern browser?
    - hasslblad 15y ago
      I think it's because IE6 is the default browser for Windows XP Installs. I think even with the later Windows XP Service Packs, they still baselined to IE6. That and there was a big gap in time between IE6 and IE7. Didn't Microsoft once announce that IE6 would be their last browser, as that's all the world needs?

toumhi 15y ago

my logs (for a file sharing solution for businesses in France) show 5.5% for IE6. Maybe because there are more early adopters at the moment? I for sure hope I won't need to spend hundreds of hours supporting IE6...

thibaut_barrere 15y ago
hi Tommy! My guess is that most "IE6 only" corporations would not allow using a file-sharing site anyway :) I still maintain one site which is around 70% IE6 (internal stuff in insurance). But one day it will change all at once, for political reasons :) I'm not sure you will see more than what you currently see on the long run...
- toumhi 15y ago
  oh hi Thibaut :-) good point, I'm not targeting big corporations anyways. I guess the problem could be that even 5% could be a problem, as people sharing files would complain their 5% customers cannot see the files... well, we'll see, no complaints so far ;-)

mattmanser 15y ago

Large car rental companies are not exactly cutting edge on IT. They tend to have a lot of small locations that's not exactly easy to start upgrading because of the cost of sending people out to do it all. My local branches look like they had their last refurb in the late 90s for example. One example does not a sample make.

draegtun 15y ago
... They tend to have a lot of small locations ... These aren't the rental outlets but their main business offices in UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal & Bulgaria! NB. The Bulgarian results shows 71% using IE6 in their main office(s). One example does not a sample make At no point did I say it was relevant outside my sample :)
tomgallard 15y ago
It is not just car rental companies. Most of the UK's major banks use IE6 still. This is because most of their intranet apps will only work in IE6, and they have the size to demand that their supplies support IE6 too. Corporate IT policy won't allow browsers apart from IE. If only Microsoft allowed side-by-side installs of IE6 and a IE8 it might be a bit more bearable (given that IE9 is not available on XP)
- draegtun 15y ago
  This is because most of their intranet apps will only work in IE6, and they have the size to demand that their supplies support IE6 too. Corporate IT policy won't allow browsers apart from IE. And this also seems to be the common case when I've done onsite freelancing gigs in non banking (SMB) UK companies over recent times :(
- sampo 15y ago
  > This is because most of their intranet apps will only work in IE6 How did it ever happen that IE6 ended up in such a long lasting and dominating position? Was it (I am just guessing here) the coincidence of tho things: (1) IE6 just happened to be the most recent Microsoft browser around the time when most of bigcorps initially build their inter/intranet apps, and (2) because this was the first wave of building such things, the web coders did not bother to think about a future when IE6 is no longer a modern browser?
  - hasslblad 15y ago
    I think it's because IE6 is the default browser for Windows XP Installs. I think even with the later Windows XP Service Packs, they still baselined to IE6. That and there was a big gap in time between IE6 and IE7. Didn't Microsoft once announce that IE6 would be their last browser, as that's all the world needs?