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Considering Higgs barely published anything for decades after ruination might not be so bad. That Nobel was a real shame in that the mechanism was discovered i

by mhh__ 4y ago

Considering Higgs barely published anything for decades after ruination might not be so bad. That Nobel was a real shame in that the mechanism was discovered independently by multiple groups, but the prize only allows 3. Kibble had a real claim to it but probably missed out because it would've meant not rewarding his colleagues.

temp1828472 4y ago
The mechanism was discovered by Anderson. They had to give it to Higgs because otherwise people might realize that theoretical particle physicists don’t do anything real (sorry but not sorry)
- JPLeRouzic 4y ago
  This person? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_W._Anderson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_W._Anderson "From 1949 to 1984, Anderson was employed by Bell Laboratories in New Jersey, where he worked on a wide variety of problems in condensed matter physics. During this period he developed: - what is now called Anderson localization (the idea that extended states can be localized by the presence of disorder in a system) - Anderson's theorem (concerning impurity scattering in superconductors); - invented the Anderson Hamiltonian, which describes the site-wise interaction of electrons in a transition metal; proposed symmetry breaking within particle physics (this played a role in the development of the Standard Model and the development of the theory behind the Higgs mechanism, which in turn generates mass in some elementary particles); - created the pseudospin approach to the BCS theory of superconductivity; - made seminal studies of non-s-wave pairing (both symmetry-breaking and microscopic mechanism) in the superfluidity of He3, - and helped found the area of spin-glasses."
  - goldenkey 4y ago
    > The mechanism was proposed in 1962 by Philip Warren Anderson,[2] following work in the late 1950s on symmetry breaking in superconductivity and a 1960 paper by Yoichiro Nambu that discussed its application within particle physics.
Maursault 4y ago
> Considering Higgs barely published anything for decades after ruination might not be so bad. I'd have never suspected that fame might be a correction to slow progress or discovery. I believe that, in general, fame is a solved problem, but the solution is not available to everyone. Why or how could a professor have an apparatus and plan and staff in place to deal with the challenges of fame? But I think it is a crying shame that just the detail of extreme popularity ruins the work. Even if Professor Higgs had already produced most of his work, as a species and society, everyone and everyone that comes after is hurt by denying him the ability to work and produce, and others before and after him. When will Beatlemania end? Why don't we, collectively, have restraint, have the ability? You'd think as a species by now we would have evolved some kind of completely invisible and odorless biochemical pheromonal response that tells all other humans, "leave me alone, I'm busy." Instead, it takes a staff.
- t6jvcereio 4y ago
  > I believe that, in general, fame is a solved problem, but the solution is not available to everyone. Wow what a meaningless phrase.
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    Lets steelman it. I think he makes it clearer in the next sentence: > Why or how could a professor have an apparatus and plan and staff in place to deal with the challenges of fame? To solve the problems of fame you need an entourage of people to advise, organise your life, talk to media etc.
  - Maursault 4y ago
    > Wow what a meaningless phrase. Crikey what an unsupportable statement.
pvaldes 4y ago
> Considering Higgs barely published anything for decades after ruination might not be so bad. Yep, this man owns us at least four more bosons. Or a lot of bogus articles for our collection of articles that don't matter but fill the shelves and grant you a good boy pat in the back. (Who's a good scientist? yessss Peter, you are). > we have to concentrate 125 billion electron volts into one spot Can't avoid to notice how terrifying would be changing a bulb in such place.

by mhh__ 4y ago

temp1828472 4y ago

The mechanism was discovered by Anderson. They had to give it to Higgs because otherwise people might realize that theoretical particle physicists don’t do anything real (sorry but not sorry)

JPLeRouzic 4y ago
This person? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_W._Anderson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_W._Anderson "From 1949 to 1984, Anderson was employed by Bell Laboratories in New Jersey, where he worked on a wide variety of problems in condensed matter physics. During this period he developed: - what is now called Anderson localization (the idea that extended states can be localized by the presence of disorder in a system) - Anderson's theorem (concerning impurity scattering in superconductors); - invented the Anderson Hamiltonian, which describes the site-wise interaction of electrons in a transition metal; proposed symmetry breaking within particle physics (this played a role in the development of the Standard Model and the development of the theory behind the Higgs mechanism, which in turn generates mass in some elementary particles); - created the pseudospin approach to the BCS theory of superconductivity; - made seminal studies of non-s-wave pairing (both symmetry-breaking and microscopic mechanism) in the superfluidity of He3, - and helped found the area of spin-glasses."
- goldenkey 4y ago
  > The mechanism was proposed in 1962 by Philip Warren Anderson,[2] following work in the late 1950s on symmetry breaking in superconductivity and a 1960 paper by Yoichiro Nambu that discussed its application within particle physics.

Maursault 4y ago

> Considering Higgs barely published anything for decades after ruination might not be so bad. I'd have never suspected that fame might be a correction to slow progress or discovery. I believe that, in general, fame is a solved problem, but the solution is not available to everyone. Why or how could a professor have an apparatus and plan and staff in place to deal with the challenges of fame? But I think it is a crying shame that just the detail of extreme popularity ruins the work. Even if Professor Higgs had already produced most of his work, as a species and society, everyone and everyone that comes after is hurt by denying him the ability to work and produce, and others before and after him. When will Beatlemania end? Why don't we, collectively, have restraint, have the ability? You'd think as a species by now we would have evolved some kind of completely invisible and odorless biochemical pheromonal response that tells all other humans, "leave me alone, I'm busy." Instead, it takes a staff.

t6jvcereio 4y ago
> I believe that, in general, fame is a solved problem, but the solution is not available to everyone. Wow what a meaningless phrase.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Lets steelman it. I think he makes it clearer in the next sentence: > Why or how could a professor have an apparatus and plan and staff in place to deal with the challenges of fame? To solve the problems of fame you need an entourage of people to advise, organise your life, talk to media etc.
- Maursault 4y ago
  > Wow what a meaningless phrase. Crikey what an unsupportable statement.

pvaldes 4y ago

> Considering Higgs barely published anything for decades after ruination might not be so bad. Yep, this man owns us at least four more bosons. Or a lot of bogus articles for our collection of articles that don't matter but fill the shelves and grant you a good boy pat in the back. (Who's a good scientist? yessss Peter, you are). > we have to concentrate 125 billion electron volts into one spot Can't avoid to notice how terrifying would be changing a bulb in such place.