<gonzo> People moved off them because it's easy to track people via... DNS stuff. RIP the days of vBulletin hacktivist collectives. At least towards the end,

<gonzo> People moved off them because it's easy to track people via... DNS stuff. RIP the days of vBulletin hacktivist collectives. At least towards the end, they had HTTPS: I always found it odd that the IRC people were obsessed with "opsec" while hackers like me always kept it offline, and thus never were even on the feds radar until we'd do something like show up at a BLM protest next to a Catholic school and announce over a bullhorn that we're here from the internet, and we're here to make sure you let the children speak and don't touch them without permission. (And then smirking at the cops standing with hands on their guns. Yeah, it's me. The guy from Defcon. The one who told your bosses if they're gonna stop having elections, we're gonna stop respecting your privacy.) </gonzo>