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-- having been through a fair share of business lawyers over the years - i've finally figured out what I like about the guy I settled on - risk assumption & mit

-- having been through a fair share of business lawyers over the years - i've finally figured out what I like about the guy I settled on - risk assumption & mitigation - my lawyer explains the risks of different approaches - as well as the potential costs - many lawyers I've used in the past are expensive & cause a lot of issues - I'm not a lawyer - I understand business law at a basic level - if my lawyer says: do it this way - I'm inclined to follow that advice - sometimes that advise is exce$$ive - much prefer a lawyer who says: these are the ways it could be done - a sensible & seasoned lawyer is one of more powerful tools a startup can have - interview lawyers till you find the one --

berberous 4y ago
Do you have some sort of personal dislike for the period?
- atwood22 4y ago
  His lawyer advised him not to end sentences.
  - claydolatry 4y ago
    A lawyer specializing in risk assumption would have advised not to assume gender
    - AussieWog93 4y ago
      Especially when their username is "pigtailgirl" :P
  - adrianmonk 4y ago
    I thought lawyers usually focus on not starting them.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  Excuse me - I'm still talking...
- pigtailgirl 4y ago
  -- our quake/ut clan used a double dash at the start & end of msg's on forums & irc back in the day - don't recall why our clan leader came up with it - we already had a -[nick|tag]- - either way it stuck with me - the middle dashes mostly because I think they are marginally easier to read - when I write my notes with a dash to separate the thoughts - i've found it's a bit quicker to skim through - happy to change if you find it annoying --
  - formerkrogemp 4y ago
    Fascinating
Jugurtha 4y ago
When I started handling a business, I had stumbled upon several problems dealing with our accounting firm (big 4). I caught several mistakes the people they assigned to our account made (such as including VAT in an six figure invoice that was exempted in a particular case. It almost seems they were working for the revenue service). Worse, once they made a mistake registering a new employee for social security, then sent us a recourse document to sign that stated that we made that mistake. It was classless and unprofessional as they either should have owned that in the document or used the passive voice. Our questions went unanswered. We ended up firing them. When we were looking for a new accountant (another big 4), I made a document with questions that served to interview the lawyer, and all the issues served to draw up the contract and service agreement. I used to see one to two emails per day from the first accounting firm. Our accounting is basic. One enterprise client. One invoice per month. Few employees. Social security cheque every quarter. Taxes every month. Salary bank transfer every month. Nothing fancy, but somehow the first firm managed to screw this up so badly it ended becoming a massive cognitive load.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
  have you thought about trying local small accounting firms/law firms for your taxes as opposed to monolith "big 4?" big 4 people will have the best paid execs and partners but the leg work is made to be done by interns and stuff. On the other hand, in a small firm, its all hands on deck to finish/work on a case. i am a lawyer/accountant in india handling business/litigation of businesses. as a representative of the smaller boutique firms, i would suggest you look up your local firms first as they are more inclined to give more attention and care to your work
  - Jugurtha 4y ago
    >have you thought about trying local small accounting firms/law firms for your taxes as opposed to monolith "big 4?" Yes, and we did. On several instances, we had silly problems like the accountant going to vacation right before tax deadline, other frustrations like communication problems. >big 4 people will have the best paid execs and partners but the leg work is made to be done by interns and stuff. On the other hand, in a small firm, its all hands on deck to finish/work on a case. That was one clause in the agreement as I said. Our account was to be handled by seasoned people and we had put in the contract that they had to answer our questions. Granted, they don't always know what to do, but you're not left hanging, but regulations here are another story. >* smaller boutique firms, i would suggest you look up your local firms first as they are more inclined to give more attention and care to your work* Done that. It's good advice. Maybe for another company but we needed our accounting to be tight given the direction we wanted to go, and the cost of doing so was almost the same as going with a smaller accounting practice.

berberous 4y ago

Do you have some sort of personal dislike for the period?

atwood22 4y ago
His lawyer advised him not to end sentences.
- claydolatry 4y ago
  A lawyer specializing in risk assumption would have advised not to assume gender
  - AussieWog93 4y ago
    Especially when their username is "pigtailgirl" :P
- adrianmonk 4y ago
  I thought lawyers usually focus on not starting them.
s1artibartfast 4y ago
Excuse me - I'm still talking...
pigtailgirl 4y ago
-- our quake/ut clan used a double dash at the start & end of msg's on forums & irc back in the day - don't recall why our clan leader came up with it - we already had a -[nick|tag]- - either way it stuck with me - the middle dashes mostly because I think they are marginally easier to read - when I write my notes with a dash to separate the thoughts - i've found it's a bit quicker to skim through - happy to change if you find it annoying --
- formerkrogemp 4y ago
  Fascinating

Jugurtha 4y ago

When I started handling a business, I had stumbled upon several problems dealing with our accounting firm (big 4). I caught several mistakes the people they assigned to our account made (such as including VAT in an six figure invoice that was exempted in a particular case. It almost seems they were working for the revenue service). Worse, once they made a mistake registering a new employee for social security, then sent us a recourse document to sign that stated that we made that mistake. It was classless and unprofessional as they either should have owned that in the document or used the passive voice. Our questions went unanswered. We ended up firing them. When we were looking for a new accountant (another big 4), I made a document with questions that served to interview the lawyer, and all the issues served to draw up the contract and service agreement. I used to see one to two emails per day from the first accounting firm. Our accounting is basic. One enterprise client. One invoice per month. Few employees. Social security cheque every quarter. Taxes every month. Salary bank transfer every month. Nothing fancy, but somehow the first firm managed to screw this up so badly it ended becoming a massive cognitive load.

2Gkashmiri 4y ago
have you thought about trying local small accounting firms/law firms for your taxes as opposed to monolith "big 4?" big 4 people will have the best paid execs and partners but the leg work is made to be done by interns and stuff. On the other hand, in a small firm, its all hands on deck to finish/work on a case. i am a lawyer/accountant in india handling business/litigation of businesses. as a representative of the smaller boutique firms, i would suggest you look up your local firms first as they are more inclined to give more attention and care to your work
- Jugurtha 4y ago
  >have you thought about trying local small accounting firms/law firms for your taxes as opposed to monolith "big 4?" Yes, and we did. On several instances, we had silly problems like the accountant going to vacation right before tax deadline, other frustrations like communication problems. >big 4 people will have the best paid execs and partners but the leg work is made to be done by interns and stuff. On the other hand, in a small firm, its all hands on deck to finish/work on a case. That was one clause in the agreement as I said. Our account was to be handled by seasoned people and we had put in the contract that they had to answer our questions. Granted, they don't always know what to do, but you're not left hanging, but regulations here are another story. >* smaller boutique firms, i would suggest you look up your local firms first as they are more inclined to give more attention and care to your work* Done that. It's good advice. Maybe for another company but we needed our accounting to be tight given the direction we wanted to go, and the cost of doing so was almost the same as going with a smaller accounting practice.