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> Yeah, he brought up religion for no particular reason. You do not understand why it was mentioned. Then you claim you do. Then you write words that many woul

by xpe 4y ago

> Yeah, he brought up religion for no particular reason. You do not understand why it was mentioned. Then you claim you do. Then you write words that many would consider insulting. You can do better. Try.

anon291 4y ago
Sorry what's insulting about what I wrote?
- xpe 4y ago
  > Yeah, he brought up religion for no particular reason. Saying that someone brought something up "for no particular reason" is not respectful. Just because you don't understand the reason is not a valid justification for being dismissive.
  - anon291 4y ago
    We were talking about liberals and conservatives. Conservatives are not universally religious and liberals are not universally irreligious. What is more disrespectful is attempting to change the subject to take the discussion in a direction that, if it were headed there to begin with, I would not have engaged.
    - xpe 4y ago
      > What is more disrespectful is attempting to change the subject to take the discussion in a direction that, if it were headed there to begin with, I would not have engaged. I'm flabbergasted by your words. I don't know your life circumstances, your age, where you live, what you've been through, etc. I do wonder if you are having a particularly bad day or week or month. I don't mean this as an insult: if you need support, please seek it out. Perhaps (like many) you lack some important communication skills or emotional awareness. These can be learned.
    - xpe 4y ago
      In my other comment, I expressed concern about your well-being. Here I'm discussing the substance of your comment ... > We were talking about liberals and conservatives. Conservatives are not universally religious and liberals are not universally irreligious. What is more disrespectful is attempting to change the subject to take the discussion in a direction that, if it were headed there to begin with, I would not have engaged. 1. I've said this before -- not sure if I did on this thread -- so I'll say it again: you seem to think that you get to define what is on topic and isn't. No, you don't. People are free to discuss as they see fit. 2. Logic isn't the whole story. Your words are coming across as self-important. That will not serve you well. It repels people, including me. I'm only writing in the hopes that this will get through to you or someone else that reads it. There are too many people here lacking fundamental discussion skills. 3. Invite feedback and learn. Ask 10 wise people to read your sentence. Do not pre-bias them. Ask for their unvarnished feedback. Discuss and actively listen without defending yourself. 4. What you wrote looks like a justification to make you feel better about yourself. Almost everyone does it. Some people become aware of it. Some people learn to do better.

by xpe 4y ago

anon291 4y ago

Sorry what's insulting about what I wrote?

xpe 4y ago
> Yeah, he brought up religion for no particular reason. Saying that someone brought something up "for no particular reason" is not respectful. Just because you don't understand the reason is not a valid justification for being dismissive.
- anon291 4y ago
  We were talking about liberals and conservatives. Conservatives are not universally religious and liberals are not universally irreligious. What is more disrespectful is attempting to change the subject to take the discussion in a direction that, if it were headed there to begin with, I would not have engaged.
  - xpe 4y ago
    > What is more disrespectful is attempting to change the subject to take the discussion in a direction that, if it were headed there to begin with, I would not have engaged. I'm flabbergasted by your words. I don't know your life circumstances, your age, where you live, what you've been through, etc. I do wonder if you are having a particularly bad day or week or month. I don't mean this as an insult: if you need support, please seek it out. Perhaps (like many) you lack some important communication skills or emotional awareness. These can be learned.
  - xpe 4y ago
    In my other comment, I expressed concern about your well-being. Here I'm discussing the substance of your comment ... > We were talking about liberals and conservatives. Conservatives are not universally religious and liberals are not universally irreligious. What is more disrespectful is attempting to change the subject to take the discussion in a direction that, if it were headed there to begin with, I would not have engaged. 1. I've said this before -- not sure if I did on this thread -- so I'll say it again: you seem to think that you get to define what is on topic and isn't. No, you don't. People are free to discuss as they see fit. 2. Logic isn't the whole story. Your words are coming across as self-important. That will not serve you well. It repels people, including me. I'm only writing in the hopes that this will get through to you or someone else that reads it. There are too many people here lacking fundamental discussion skills. 3. Invite feedback and learn. Ask 10 wise people to read your sentence. Do not pre-bias them. Ask for their unvarnished feedback. Discuss and actively listen without defending yourself. 4. What you wrote looks like a justification to make you feel better about yourself. Almost everyone does it. Some people become aware of it. Some people learn to do better.