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None? But that doesn't stop this being the midterm election narrative, pushed by left leaning mass media in wake of the Supreme court decision. Remember when U

by pxmpxm 4y ago

None? But that doesn't stop this being the midterm election narrative, pushed by left leaning mass media in wake of the Supreme court decision. Remember when Utah was mass-arresting residents returning from a gambling and booze weekend in Vegas? No? Probably because that's not a real thing, either.

mariojv 4y ago
Regardless of what you think about the "left leaning mass media," abortion funds in Texas like the Frontera Fund are pausing abortion funding, even for out of state abortions, due to the fear that a recently passed Texas law criminalizing anyone who helps someone get an abortion will apply to them: https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/29/texas-abortion-funds-legal/ https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/29/texas-abortion-funds... It is not clear that this is enforceable for funding an out of state abortion, but the uncertain legal framework is already harming abortion access. It will take a long time for criminalization of out of state travel to work its way up the courts. It is not just a fear to drive up midterm turnout: this is actually happening right now. Please do a modicum of research rather than dismissing peoples' concerns out of hand due to your perceptions around media bias. Even if there is such a bias, it seems to be clouding your view of what is factually observable.
- pxmpxm 4y ago
  The very premise of this type of FUD was actually explicitly mentioned in the Supreme court decision (by Kavanaugh if I recall correctly) - the notion of states hunting down their residents or tracking activities in other states is as far fetched in the context of abortion as it is in any other activity that is perfectly legal elsewhere. There is no legal uncertainty in this matter, just as there is no uncertainty whether you can be charged with soliciting upon returning from a legal brothel in Nevada, for example. You should not be surprised by the coordinated effort by interested parties to push this as a narrative, both the agency you mentioned and google in the original article. All these concerns will magically disappear after November, with each org quietly backtracking on their heavily publicized actions.

by pxmpxm 4y ago

mariojv 4y ago

Regardless of what you think about the "left leaning mass media," abortion funds in Texas like the Frontera Fund are pausing abortion funding, even for out of state abortions, due to the fear that a recently passed Texas law criminalizing anyone who helps someone get an abortion will apply to them: https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/29/texas-abortion-funds-legal/ https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/29/texas-abortion-funds... It is not clear that this is enforceable for funding an out of state abortion, but the uncertain legal framework is already harming abortion access. It will take a long time for criminalization of out of state travel to work its way up the courts. It is not just a fear to drive up midterm turnout: this is actually happening right now. Please do a modicum of research rather than dismissing peoples' concerns out of hand due to your perceptions around media bias. Even if there is such a bias, it seems to be clouding your view of what is factually observable.

pxmpxm 4y ago
The very premise of this type of FUD was actually explicitly mentioned in the Supreme court decision (by Kavanaugh if I recall correctly) - the notion of states hunting down their residents or tracking activities in other states is as far fetched in the context of abortion as it is in any other activity that is perfectly legal elsewhere. There is no legal uncertainty in this matter, just as there is no uncertainty whether you can be charged with soliciting upon returning from a legal brothel in Nevada, for example. You should not be surprised by the coordinated effort by interested parties to push this as a narrative, both the agency you mentioned and google in the original article. All these concerns will magically disappear after November, with each org quietly backtracking on their heavily publicized actions.