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List of social media alternatives

29 points by memorable 4y ago

BMc2020 4y ago
missed https://www.laarc.io/ https://www.laarc.io/ (actually an hn clone but whats the dif?)
ggm 4y ago
It's a bit like Ed Meese and pornography. You know it when you see it, but it defies definition. Easy to Say "reddit alternative" but really it might not have the zeitgeist quite right. "It depends". * if you want the dialogue how well it does thread and nested comment management is key, and thread hiding * if you don't like moderation you're going to be accepting doxx, pile-on, racism, trumping, trashtalk and trolling. * if the owner marries a tennis superstar or starts a rocket company or sells NFT it's not worth it.
moneywoes 4y ago
HN should be #1
- krapp 4y ago
  No, please. The last thing we need is even more of the toxic diaspora from Reddit and the chans showing up here.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - glouwbug 4y ago
- r721 4y ago
  It's in "Reddit and similar established sites" section at the bottom of the list.
  - muzani 4y ago
    It's under 4chan and above digg.
    - r721 4y ago
      That's how SimilarWeb estimated HN's traffic rank (numbers in "rank" column are clickable).
margalabargala 4y ago
Let's see, from the top down I found: 1) Far-right cesspool 2) Far-right cesspool 3) Far-right cesspool 4) Anti-trans "women's community" 5) Something actually decent
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- mike00632 4y ago
  This was my exact thoughts
  - acgh213 4y ago
    me as well, plus it doesn't list things like discord servers, but will list mastodon communities? just feels purposeful to mislead people looking for an alternative to reddit and dump them into purposeful recreations made by those who enjoy taking younger white cis men and women, and turning them into hate filled monsters.
- cato_the_elder 4y ago
  Well, if it is the right that needs to evade censorship, it tells us something about who does it. > Something actually decent Which one is it?
  - margalabargala 4y ago
    Do you think the reason these sites exist is to "evade censorship" as opposed to any other reason? That's quite the assumption. Would love to see some evidence. > Which one is it? The list linked is ordered, so if you count down to #5, you will find mstdn.social
    - cato_the_elder 4y ago
      > Do you think the reason these sites exist is to "evade censorship" as opposed to any other reason? I'm not sure what the other possible reasons are. Due to the network effects, you'd expect people to want to use the larger social media websites by default. And theses alternatives don't seem to offer anything special (except possibly having less censorship).
r721 4y ago
This list is also handy (open source reddit alternatives with links to github): >Reddit alternatives sorted by software https://ramble.pw/f/RedditAlternatives/4041/reddit-alternatives-sorted-by-software https://ramble.pw/f/RedditAlternatives/4041/reddit-alternati...
tbrownaw 4y ago
I thought Mastodon was closer to Twitter-shaped than to Reddit-shaped?
- r721 4y ago
  Yeah, the decision to include some Mastodon instances (out of ~1000: https://instances.social/list/old https://instances.social/list/old) is a bit weird, but that's what list compiler (mod of /r/RedditAlternatives) decided to do. The list has "very reddit-like (red)" column though.
  - acgh213 4y ago
    I'd still argue its a misleading title, its a list of Active Social Media Alternatives, regardless of what the mod named the list. I think the title should be changed to reflect that. @dang any input?
    - dang 4y ago
      Sure, we can change it. Too late to make a difference, but might as well.
draw_down 4y ago
acgh213 4y ago
What is it tonight with the low effort posts trying to drive those who use telegram and reddit to right wing / hateful alternatives? I'll make a guess and that it's related to roe v wade and the political climate, especially with those insanely pro life, and by statistical chance, republican, aren't being welcomed on left leaning sites. So those people think this "rejection" is happening to everyone, when that is a flat out falsehood. Its the "reality has a left leaning bias" and its being met with the same attempts to indoctrinate people towards hate. The only group of people who would feel quote 'persecuted' unquote are those who hold hateful and bigoted views. I don't think theres anything majorly wrong with redditlikes/twitterlikes/federated mastadon sites. But the moment I see a random site telling me to use alternatives that only promote hateful views, I don't see it as valid. Regardless of the data used, sites like Gab shouldn't be given a spotlight since they refuse to even federate with other Mastadon servers. I don't even want to get into how Gab is clearly a cesspool [1], the next two sites listed are 4chan twitter analogues, and the overite page is the terfs who were banned from reddit. In this day and age, a reddit clone isn't the same as a digg clone. A reddit clone is mostly a "refuge" (rdrama being a great example counter to my terf/bigot point) for those who are banned from reddit. In reddits history, the only subreddits who get outright banned are those like /r/cringetopia /r/fatpeoplehate /r/thedonald Communities that promote hate. And seeing such a clearly bad list on hacker news, I had to speak up. [1]https://www.npr.org/2018/10/28/661532688/a-look-at-gab-the-free-speech-social-site-where-synagogue-shooting-suspect-poste https://www.npr.org/2018/10/28/661532688/a-look-at-gab-the-f...
ThrowawayTestr 4y ago
I've enjoyed rdrama.net as a good reddit replacement.
timbit42 4y ago
Mewe.com isn't on that list.
- snapplebobapple 4y ago
  ahh yes, mewe where you can find 90% of the funniest memes found on gab but with only 1 % of the antisemitism one finds on gab.
kkfx 4y ago
IMVHO the sole Reddit (and HN) alternative is Usenet. For a reason: an "alternative" witch is essentially a clone of a platform with the same model (platform owner + users) is not an alternative. It's like when people rush out of GutHub after Microsoft purchase as Microsoft is a different beast than the previous owner and another company, like GitLab is "a better alternative". Usenet is an alternative because: - no one own "the platform" - anyone can have hes/shes own messages on a personal iron That's is. An alternative is something different that do the same thing IMO, not a clone or almost a clone with just a different owner or dress.

29 points by memorable 4y ago

BMc2020 4y ago

missed https://www.laarc.io/ https://www.laarc.io/ (actually an hn clone but whats the dif?)

ggm 4y ago

It's a bit like Ed Meese and pornography. You know it when you see it, but it defies definition. Easy to Say "reddit alternative" but really it might not have the zeitgeist quite right. "It depends". * if you want the dialogue how well it does thread and nested comment management is key, and thread hiding * if you don't like moderation you're going to be accepting doxx, pile-on, racism, trumping, trashtalk and trolling. * if the owner marries a tennis superstar or starts a rocket company or sells NFT it's not worth it.

moneywoes 4y ago

HN should be #1

krapp 4y ago
No, please. The last thing we need is even more of the toxic diaspora from Reddit and the chans showing up here.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- glouwbug 4y ago
r721 4y ago
It's in "Reddit and similar established sites" section at the bottom of the list.
- muzani 4y ago
  It's under 4chan and above digg.
  - r721 4y ago
    That's how SimilarWeb estimated HN's traffic rank (numbers in "rank" column are clickable).

margalabargala 4y ago

Let's see, from the top down I found: 1) Far-right cesspool 2) Far-right cesspool 3) Far-right cesspool 4) Anti-trans "women's community" 5) Something actually decent

deleted 4y ago
[deleted]
mike00632 4y ago
This was my exact thoughts
- acgh213 4y ago
  me as well, plus it doesn't list things like discord servers, but will list mastodon communities? just feels purposeful to mislead people looking for an alternative to reddit and dump them into purposeful recreations made by those who enjoy taking younger white cis men and women, and turning them into hate filled monsters.
cato_the_elder 4y ago
Well, if it is the right that needs to evade censorship, it tells us something about who does it. > Something actually decent Which one is it?
- margalabargala 4y ago
  Do you think the reason these sites exist is to "evade censorship" as opposed to any other reason? That's quite the assumption. Would love to see some evidence. > Which one is it? The list linked is ordered, so if you count down to #5, you will find mstdn.social
  - cato_the_elder 4y ago
    > Do you think the reason these sites exist is to "evade censorship" as opposed to any other reason? I'm not sure what the other possible reasons are. Due to the network effects, you'd expect people to want to use the larger social media websites by default. And theses alternatives don't seem to offer anything special (except possibly having less censorship).

r721 4y ago

This list is also handy (open source reddit alternatives with links to github): >Reddit alternatives sorted by software https://ramble.pw/f/RedditAlternatives/4041/reddit-alternatives-sorted-by-software https://ramble.pw/f/RedditAlternatives/4041/reddit-alternati...

tbrownaw 4y ago

I thought Mastodon was closer to Twitter-shaped than to Reddit-shaped?

r721 4y ago
Yeah, the decision to include some Mastodon instances (out of ~1000: https://instances.social/list/old https://instances.social/list/old) is a bit weird, but that's what list compiler (mod of /r/RedditAlternatives) decided to do. The list has "very reddit-like (red)" column though.
- acgh213 4y ago
  I'd still argue its a misleading title, its a list of Active Social Media Alternatives, regardless of what the mod named the list. I think the title should be changed to reflect that. @dang any input?
  - dang 4y ago
    Sure, we can change it. Too late to make a difference, but might as well.

draw_down 4y ago

acgh213 4y ago

What is it tonight with the low effort posts trying to drive those who use telegram and reddit to right wing / hateful alternatives? I'll make a guess and that it's related to roe v wade and the political climate, especially with those insanely pro life, and by statistical chance, republican, aren't being welcomed on left leaning sites. So those people think this "rejection" is happening to everyone, when that is a flat out falsehood. Its the "reality has a left leaning bias" and its being met with the same attempts to indoctrinate people towards hate. The only group of people who would feel quote 'persecuted' unquote are those who hold hateful and bigoted views. I don't think theres anything majorly wrong with redditlikes/twitterlikes/federated mastadon sites. But the moment I see a random site telling me to use alternatives that only promote hateful views, I don't see it as valid. Regardless of the data used, sites like Gab shouldn't be given a spotlight since they refuse to even federate with other Mastadon servers. I don't even want to get into how Gab is clearly a cesspool [1], the next two sites listed are 4chan twitter analogues, and the overite page is the terfs who were banned from reddit. In this day and age, a reddit clone isn't the same as a digg clone. A reddit clone is mostly a "refuge" (rdrama being a great example counter to my terf/bigot point) for those who are banned from reddit. In reddits history, the only subreddits who get outright banned are those like /r/cringetopia /r/fatpeoplehate /r/thedonald Communities that promote hate. And seeing such a clearly bad list on hacker news, I had to speak up. [1]https://www.npr.org/2018/10/28/661532688/a-look-at-gab-the-free-speech-social-site-where-synagogue-shooting-suspect-poste https://www.npr.org/2018/10/28/661532688/a-look-at-gab-the-f...

ThrowawayTestr 4y ago

I've enjoyed rdrama.net as a good reddit replacement.

timbit42 4y ago

Mewe.com isn't on that list.

snapplebobapple 4y ago
ahh yes, mewe where you can find 90% of the funniest memes found on gab but with only 1 % of the antisemitism one finds on gab.

kkfx 4y ago

IMVHO the sole Reddit (and HN) alternative is Usenet. For a reason: an "alternative" witch is essentially a clone of a platform with the same model (platform owner + users) is not an alternative. It's like when people rush out of GutHub after Microsoft purchase as Microsoft is a different beast than the previous owner and another company, like GitLab is "a better alternative". Usenet is an alternative because: - no one own "the platform" - anyone can have hes/shes own messages on a personal iron That's is. An alternative is something different that do the same thing IMO, not a clone or almost a clone with just a different owner or dress.