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Cancer rates are a lagging indicator. You get sunburned today, you get cancer in 30 years. The people getting skin cancer now were not wearing sunscreen in 1990

Cancer rates are a lagging indicator. You get sunburned today, you get cancer in 30 years. The people getting skin cancer now were not wearing sunscreen in 1990.

_justinfunk 4y ago
And we all remember how the sun was invented in 1991.
- cortesoft 4y ago
  The whole in the ozone was a big deal in the 80s.
  - adastra22 4y ago
    In Argentina.
    - culi 4y ago
      Actually Australia had it the worst. I remember estimates that the MAJORITY of Australians will have had skin cancer in their lifetimes
      - dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
        Excuse you. NZ and Pacific islands had it the worst. Aussie sun is a joke compared to NZ sun.
        robocat 4y ago
        The ozone hole is scary, and certainly anecdotally it feels like it severely affected UV levels, however apparently the science says the hole didn’t actually affect UV in NZ very much: “While the ozone hole does not directly affect ozone concentrations over New Zealand, when it breaks up in spring it can send ‘plumes’ of ozone-depleted air towards us. This briefly decreases column ozone levels by around 5 percent, about the same amount as normal daily variation (Ajtić et al, 2004).”[1]. I read that a 5% decrease in column ozone leads to a 2.5% increase in UV, which is not that significant. Personally I believe the NZ sun is harsh, but looking at country measurements shows UV levels in NZ are not as bad as we might think. That said, as a NZer, I am extremely pleased that everyone banned ozone depleting chemicals. [1] https://www.stats.govt.nz/indicators/ozone-hole/ https://www.stats.govt.nz/indicators/ozone-hole/
      - thematrixturtle 4y ago
        That's not an estimate, that's reality: 2/3rds of Australian will get some form of skin cancer. https://www.sunsmart.com.au/skin-cancer/skin-cancer-facts-stats https://www.sunsmart.com.au/skin-cancer/skin-cancer-facts-st... It's not quite as dramatic as that sounds though, because the really dangerous type (melanoma) has "only" ~5% incidence.

Cancer rates are a lagging indicator. You get sunburned today, you get cancer in 30 years. The people getting skin cancer now were not wearing sunscreen in 1990.

_justinfunk 4y ago

And we all remember how the sun was invented in 1991.

cortesoft 4y ago
The whole in the ozone was a big deal in the 80s.
- adastra22 4y ago
  In Argentina.
  - culi 4y ago
    Actually Australia had it the worst. I remember estimates that the MAJORITY of Australians will have had skin cancer in their lifetimes
    - dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
      Excuse you. NZ and Pacific islands had it the worst. Aussie sun is a joke compared to NZ sun.
      - robocat 4y ago
        The ozone hole is scary, and certainly anecdotally it feels like it severely affected UV levels, however apparently the science says the hole didn’t actually affect UV in NZ very much: “While the ozone hole does not directly affect ozone concentrations over New Zealand, when it breaks up in spring it can send ‘plumes’ of ozone-depleted air towards us. This briefly decreases column ozone levels by around 5 percent, about the same amount as normal daily variation (Ajtić et al, 2004).”[1]. I read that a 5% decrease in column ozone leads to a 2.5% increase in UV, which is not that significant. Personally I believe the NZ sun is harsh, but looking at country measurements shows UV levels in NZ are not as bad as we might think. That said, as a NZer, I am extremely pleased that everyone banned ozone depleting chemicals. [1] https://www.stats.govt.nz/indicators/ozone-hole/ https://www.stats.govt.nz/indicators/ozone-hole/
    - thematrixturtle 4y ago
      That's not an estimate, that's reality: 2/3rds of Australian will get some form of skin cancer. https://www.sunsmart.com.au/skin-cancer/skin-cancer-facts-stats https://www.sunsmart.com.au/skin-cancer/skin-cancer-facts-st... It's not quite as dramatic as that sounds though, because the really dangerous type (melanoma) has "only" ~5% incidence.