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This is a good opportunity for privacy proponents and activists to take advantage of this opening and push for a stop to the collection of any of this informati

by mc32 4y ago

This is a good opportunity for privacy proponents and activists to take advantage of this opening and push for a stop to the collection of any of this information. This is the time to take the mile, this is the time to make the slope slippery.

jimbob45 4y ago
At least for high-impact locations if they can’t get everything. Women’s shelters and hospitals would be an excellent start.
- mc32 4y ago
  Neither companies not governments should have people's information at their fingertips. Ok, maybe on foreign spies, yes, by all means, but not for citizens. They should not have that kind of information on people. This is something we used to make fun of the Stasi for --and they didn't have THIS capability. But, yet here we are happy to accept it these days.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  Gay bars. The homes of people who have been to gay bars. Synagogues.
jeffbee 4y ago
Why do "privacy activists" have standing to intermediate between me and a third party, if I want to use that third party's services to remember where I've been? Privacy activists need to check themselves.
- mc32 4y ago
  No problem if you opt in to it as an option.
  - guiambros 4y ago
    Per [1]: - Location History is turned off by default for your Google Account and can only be turned on if you opt in. - You can pause Location History at any time in your Google Account's Activity controls. - You control what’s saved in your Location History. You can view the places where you’ve been in Google Maps Timeline, which you can edit or use to delete your Location History. And... - You can turn off Location History for your account at any time. - You can manage and delete your Location History information with Google Maps Timeline. You can choose to delete all of your history, or only parts of it. - You can choose to automatically delete Location History that’s older than 3 months, 18 months, or 36 months. Seriously, I don't see how it could be more flexible and user-controlled than this. (Disclaimer: Googler, but no relationship with Maps or Geo teams. As an individual user, I use and love my location history, and appreciate the level of control I have) [1] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3118687 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3118687
    - encryptluks2 4y ago
      It's like they are incapable of reading and doing their own research. Regardless, a better solution would be to regulate data collection to make alternative self-hosted services available and easy to use and allow you to opt-out as well.
      - pessimizer 4y ago
        They changed the defaults in response to the threats from the people you disdain. If this is how you think the situation should be, remember it would not be this way if we had to rely on your judgment or efforts.
        encryptluks2 4y ago
        Disdain? Only one platform allows you to install and use third-party apps. People that act this way are the ones with an iPhone with TikTok installed while complaining about Google. I'm not on Google's side here, I'm just saying the information being presented is factually wrong.
    - 4y ago

by mc32 4y ago

jimbob45 4y ago

At least for high-impact locations if they can’t get everything. Women’s shelters and hospitals would be an excellent start.

mc32 4y ago
Neither companies not governments should have people's information at their fingertips. Ok, maybe on foreign spies, yes, by all means, but not for citizens. They should not have that kind of information on people. This is something we used to make fun of the Stasi for --and they didn't have THIS capability. But, yet here we are happy to accept it these days.
pessimizer 4y ago
Gay bars. The homes of people who have been to gay bars. Synagogues.

jeffbee 4y ago

Why do "privacy activists" have standing to intermediate between me and a third party, if I want to use that third party's services to remember where I've been? Privacy activists need to check themselves.

mc32 4y ago
No problem if you opt in to it as an option.
- guiambros 4y ago
  Per [1]: - Location History is turned off by default for your Google Account and can only be turned on if you opt in. - You can pause Location History at any time in your Google Account's Activity controls. - You control what’s saved in your Location History. You can view the places where you’ve been in Google Maps Timeline, which you can edit or use to delete your Location History. And... - You can turn off Location History for your account at any time. - You can manage and delete your Location History information with Google Maps Timeline. You can choose to delete all of your history, or only parts of it. - You can choose to automatically delete Location History that’s older than 3 months, 18 months, or 36 months. Seriously, I don't see how it could be more flexible and user-controlled than this. (Disclaimer: Googler, but no relationship with Maps or Geo teams. As an individual user, I use and love my location history, and appreciate the level of control I have) [1] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3118687 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3118687
  - encryptluks2 4y ago
    It's like they are incapable of reading and doing their own research. Regardless, a better solution would be to regulate data collection to make alternative self-hosted services available and easy to use and allow you to opt-out as well.
    - pessimizer 4y ago
      They changed the defaults in response to the threats from the people you disdain. If this is how you think the situation should be, remember it would not be this way if we had to rely on your judgment or efforts.
      - encryptluks2 4y ago
        Disdain? Only one platform allows you to install and use third-party apps. People that act this way are the ones with an iPhone with TikTok installed while complaining about Google. I'm not on Google's side here, I'm just saying the information being presented is factually wrong.
  - 4y ago