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"God made man. Samuel Colt made them equal." There is codified in the Constitution of the United States recognition that some will always seek to subjugate oth
by all2 4y ago
"God made man. Samuel Colt made them equal."
There is codified in the Constitution of the United States recognition that some will always seek to subjugate others. And an enshrined recognition that this is morally wrong is the Second Amendment: the right to bear arms. Many of the founding fathers of the United States made statements to the affect that a well armed citizenry was the only method by which true tyranny could be removed.
And true tyranny is the living example of "might makes right".
The appeal to "something better" than our base instinct to crush our enemies and hear the lamentations of their women is distinct to Christian morality. No other religion or political ideology makes this appeal.
This is why the United States -- with its distinctly Christian moral foundation -- is unique in the world. The founders recognized first the right of association and speech, and second the right to personal autonomy; to bear arms and kill those who would subjugate or kill you.
- random314 4y ago> The appeal to "something better" than our base instinct to crush our enemies and hear the lamentations of their women is distinct to Christian morality. No other religion or political ideology makes this appeal. What!!
- InefficientRed 4y agoI can't tell if this is unhinged xenophobia or satire. In case of the former: the crusades, any of the millions of athiest or non-christian pacifists, and... I can't believe this needs stating, but shooting someone in the face with an assault rifle is an exercise of "might".
- gpderetta 4y agoSomething something Poe's law something...
- boston_clone 4y agoConsidering their history of using Gab, you can safely assume the former. Their complete misunderstanding of the history of both this country's founding and Christianity really help cement that assumption as accurate, though. It's unfortunate to see that the US education system has regressed so poorly.
- all2 4y agoThis is ad hominem. Ignoring that, I'd like to know exactly what I misunderstand about my country's founding and what I misunderstand about Christianity? If my understanding is inaccurate, I welcome correction.
- the_only_law 4y agoProbably assertions like: > The appeal to "something better" than our base instinct to crush our enemies and hear the lamentations of their women is distinct to Christian morality. No other religion or political ideology makes this appeal.
- boston_clone 4y agoUsing a social media platform specifically built as a harbor for racists, xenophobes, misogynists, homophobes, and fascists is simply a data point supporting an assertion about your beliefs. > If my understanding is inaccurate, I welcome correction You're similarly free to redirect that welcoming attitude toward doing your own due diligence about the topics on which you speak publicly. The US was not founded upon Christian morals [0]; further, Christian morals are objectively shit - any religion with a deity that advocates for slavery has no place in civilized society. "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." -John Adams 0. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/founding-fathers-we-are-n_b_6761840 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/founding-fathers-we-are-n_b_6...
- all2 4y agoThat article states plainly that just the Declaration of Independence refers to God four times. I'm confused. The same article earlier asserts that there are no mentions of God in the four founding documents. If your intent is to ever convince someone who you disagree with I recommend more consistent scholarship that is less hostile and more bent to the truth. I acknowledge that in our fractured time, finding such scholarship is difficult at best.
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- all2 4y agoAnd shooting someone who is trying to kill you or your family is an exercise in individual sovereignty. The point is self defense in the face of people who would dominate you, tell you to do things you don't want to do or know are not morally right.
- InefficientRed 4y ago"Shoot people who tell you to do stuff you don't want to do" is the superior Christian alternative to might makes right... strongly suspect trolling.
- all2 4y ago> Get in this train car. You will have accommodations when you arrive at Auschwitz.
- eyelidlessness 4y ago> The founders recognized first the right of association and speech, and second the right to personal autonomy; to bear arms and kill those who would subjugate or kill you. Before they recognized either, they recognized the ownership of human beings as property and specially allocated those human properties as fractional humans.
- pxmpxm 4y agoAppeal to emotion, therefore your point is invalid... Didn't expect to read something this vapid on HN. You may as well have said they owned slaves and therefore their ideas are forever wrong. I would suggest you actually read about the strategy behind the 3/5ths clause; everyone that invokes that as invective merely signals his/her ignorance of that context.
- eyelidlessness 4y agoI think you may have been quick to invalidate the point you thought I was making?