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Use an alarm. Eat cereal. Use the microwave. These are all non problems that any half functioning adult or high school kid can think of solutions to.

giantg2 4y ago
If the kids are really so sleep deprived that we need a law about it, then it's likely some will sleep past their alarms. Dictating diet by limiting options doesn't sound like a great plan to me. You know what else is a non-problem? The current start times.
- MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
  I see the argument you are making and just want to suggest that this law is trying to help out the kids who are both capable of getting to school on their own regardless of start time, who would also benefit from the extra sleep. I suspect that this is the majority of the population of teenagers. Public schools are not really a free market where kids get to pick and choose based on features like start times. Most are selected because it is the only practical option for the family's means. In the absence of market pressure, using legislation to improve people's lives isn't wrong.
  - giantg2 4y ago
    If this is such a contentious issue, then why not allow the parents in each district to decide? That's really what I'm getting at - the state is making this decision for everyone by usurping the parents representation at the district level.
    - MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
      If it is such a contentious issue, then why go through all the extra time and effort to decide it for each and every district? Parents still have a voice and vote at the state level do they not?
      - giantg2 4y ago
        Because what works for one district might not work for another based on the demographics and culture of the location. Their voice at the state level is highly diluted by non-interested parties. Voting for school board members tends to be more focused and doesn't have as many people voting based on non-school issues like you would for a general representative.

giantg2 4y ago

If the kids are really so sleep deprived that we need a law about it, then it's likely some will sleep past their alarms. Dictating diet by limiting options doesn't sound like a great plan to me. You know what else is a non-problem? The current start times.

MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
I see the argument you are making and just want to suggest that this law is trying to help out the kids who are both capable of getting to school on their own regardless of start time, who would also benefit from the extra sleep. I suspect that this is the majority of the population of teenagers. Public schools are not really a free market where kids get to pick and choose based on features like start times. Most are selected because it is the only practical option for the family's means. In the absence of market pressure, using legislation to improve people's lives isn't wrong.
- giantg2 4y ago
  If this is such a contentious issue, then why not allow the parents in each district to decide? That's really what I'm getting at - the state is making this decision for everyone by usurping the parents representation at the district level.
  - MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
    If it is such a contentious issue, then why go through all the extra time and effort to decide it for each and every district? Parents still have a voice and vote at the state level do they not?
    - giantg2 4y ago
      Because what works for one district might not work for another based on the demographics and culture of the location. Their voice at the state level is highly diluted by non-interested parties. Voting for school board members tends to be more focused and doesn't have as many people voting based on non-school issues like you would for a general representative.