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I don´t agree with your wording. You sound like that especially in a democracy the minorities get crushed. But its the democracies that build upon the core idea

I don´t agree with your wording. You sound like that especially in a democracy the minorities get crushed. But its the democracies that build upon the core idea of alienable human rights, that gives you voting power but also guarantees as an individual. It is no wonder that you will find such constitutions in democracies. Thats why I said trias politica. I encourage you to think critically and at the same time ask you to cherish what you have. It is you duty to defend democracy and keep it functioning, or else you will lose it. I am not saying that do you do that personally, but I see a lot of spoiled people in the west that shit on their own chair, by dismissing democracy, even sometimes equaling it with autocratic regimes. Those don´t know what they ask for.

ncmncm 4y ago
The notion of inalienable human rights is, specifically, opposed to democracy. Democracy needs to be subordinated to that more fundamental principle. They are often associated only because places where democracy is strong also tend to acknowledge human rights, at least in the abstract. (Obviously autocrats will not acknowledge it.) But it was, and is, often not so. Ask any Jim Crow victim. Or widow of a police violence victim.
- exceptione 4y ago
  I think your outrage over specific transgressions got the better of you, turning you to black-white thinking. It's a fallacy. If someones right got trampled, that is something to take to the court. The law is there to protect the single man or minority from 'the terror of the majority'. That's why we mean with democracy not just the ability to vote, but also the rule of law . We also mean the trias politica: law making powers, executive power, and judiciary power al separated. No one said that in a democracy everything will be perfect. It requires work. It at least gives you the tools to improve it. It is a living system.
  - ncmncm 4y ago
    Ask Emmett Till about that. Well, you can't, because he's dead. His (admitted -- boasted, really) murderer was acquitted in a trial by a jury of his peers. The murderer's. None of Emmett's, of course. So, no. Democracy or something like is generally a prerequisite for the notion of rights to even have meaning. But it absolutely does not demand them. Each has to be fought for over many generations. You have to hope your democracy lasts long enough for that. Often enough a neighboring autocrat crushes it.

ncmncm 4y ago

The notion of inalienable human rights is, specifically, opposed to democracy. Democracy needs to be subordinated to that more fundamental principle. They are often associated only because places where democracy is strong also tend to acknowledge human rights, at least in the abstract. (Obviously autocrats will not acknowledge it.) But it was, and is, often not so. Ask any Jim Crow victim. Or widow of a police violence victim.

exceptione 4y ago
I think your outrage over specific transgressions got the better of you, turning you to black-white thinking. It's a fallacy. If someones right got trampled, that is something to take to the court. The law is there to protect the single man or minority from 'the terror of the majority'. That's why we mean with democracy not just the ability to vote, but also the rule of law . We also mean the trias politica: law making powers, executive power, and judiciary power al separated. No one said that in a democracy everything will be perfect. It requires work. It at least gives you the tools to improve it. It is a living system.
- ncmncm 4y ago
  Ask Emmett Till about that. Well, you can't, because he's dead. His (admitted -- boasted, really) murderer was acquitted in a trial by a jury of his peers. The murderer's. None of Emmett's, of course. So, no. Democracy or something like is generally a prerequisite for the notion of rights to even have meaning. But it absolutely does not demand them. Each has to be fought for over many generations. You have to hope your democracy lasts long enough for that. Often enough a neighboring autocrat crushes it.