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> Scamming people outside Israel was legal in Israel at the time. My head just exploded here. I think I need to go lie down. Please nobody tell the Florida leg

> Scamming people outside Israel was legal in Israel at the time. My head just exploded here. I think I need to go lie down. Please nobody tell the Florida legislature about this.

tester756 4y ago
In Russia you can hack foregin countries too :)
- tigerBL00D 4y ago
  The problem with Russia is not the law, but lack of willingness to cooperate.
Animats 4y ago
Quite real, though. Until it became so embarrassing to Israel that the law was changed in 2017.[1] The Times of Israel: "The crooks are still out there. Some binary options firms have closed down. Others have relocated overseas, including to Cyprus and Ukraine. Some of the prime movers and shakers have already adjusted their focus to other fraudulent fields — in the fields of diamond sales, cryptocurrencies, initial coin offerings and predatory business loans. Top scammers are still enjoying the vast overseas bank accounts, the yachts, luxury cars, exotic holidays and other profits of their ill-gotten gains." [2] That's a good article, and talks about the lobbyists, the political connections, and the refusal of the Israeli police to act. The investigative reporter who broke the story, Simona Weinglass, frequently reports on how the Israeli financial scam industry has grown and changed. "Another 2 leading Israeli blockchain pioneers named as suspects in vast crypto scam"[3] A former Celsius CFO was one of them. Celsius, of course, denied there was a problem. That story was back in in March, three months before the Celsius collapse. Somewhere, behind this new wrong-number/fake broker thing, there is probably an organized criminal enterprise. [1] https://www.jpost.com/Business-and-Innovation/Israeli-ministers-vote-to-ban-binary-options-sales-overseas-497195 https://www.jpost.com/Business-and-Innovation/Israeli-minist... [2] https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-binary-options-ban-is-only-a-small-victory-in-the-war-on-israeli-corruption/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-binary-options-ban-is-only... [3] https://www.timesofisrael.com/another-2-leading-israeli-blockchain-pioneers-named-as-suspects-in-vast-crypto-scam/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/another-2-leading-israeli-bloc...
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mcculley 4y ago
Florida has been selling swampland to gullible retirees from other states for a long time.
- pavlov 4y ago
  "These are the new leads. These are the Glengarry leads. And to you they're gold, and you don't get them."
cultofmetatron 4y ago
- fortran77 4y ago
  This is an outrageous untruth.
  - cultofmetatron 4y ago
    my original statement was intended to be a joke but it is based on actual precendent. so here's my sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery#:~:text=Ephesians%206%3A5%2D8%20Paul,Titus%202%3A9%2D10 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery#:~:text=.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery TLDR: perfectly fine to keep non jews as slaves. Now in the interest in fairness, I want to emphasize that every culture has some shitbird crap like this going on and unlike everyone else, you could convert to judaism and thus become a non slave which was hella progressive compared to everyone else at the time. I don't see anything about white plantations holders setting their black slaves free when they adopted Christianity for instance.
    - fortran77 4y ago
      Slavery in the Hebrew Bible was limited; for example they were freed in 7 years or less. It was more like indentured servitude. The American slave trade was not justified by the Hebrew Bible. Of course, when Christians culturally appropriated it, they changed it. The Wikipedia page you linked to explains this.
      - cultofmetatron 4y ago
        my point was a clarification of a joke made. Op said his mind was blown by the idea that they'd be ok with scamming people from outside the country but not other Israelis which I then drew a comparison to slavery which had a similar restriction. that was the joke. besides, 7 years of slavery is still slavery.

> Scamming people outside Israel was legal in Israel at the time. My head just exploded here. I think I need to go lie down. Please nobody tell the Florida legislature about this.

tester756 4y ago

In Russia you can hack foregin countries too :)

tigerBL00D 4y ago
The problem with Russia is not the law, but lack of willingness to cooperate.

Animats 4y ago

Quite real, though. Until it became so embarrassing to Israel that the law was changed in 2017.[1] The Times of Israel: "The crooks are still out there. Some binary options firms have closed down. Others have relocated overseas, including to Cyprus and Ukraine. Some of the prime movers and shakers have already adjusted their focus to other fraudulent fields — in the fields of diamond sales, cryptocurrencies, initial coin offerings and predatory business loans. Top scammers are still enjoying the vast overseas bank accounts, the yachts, luxury cars, exotic holidays and other profits of their ill-gotten gains." [2] That's a good article, and talks about the lobbyists, the political connections, and the refusal of the Israeli police to act. The investigative reporter who broke the story, Simona Weinglass, frequently reports on how the Israeli financial scam industry has grown and changed. "Another 2 leading Israeli blockchain pioneers named as suspects in vast crypto scam"[3] A former Celsius CFO was one of them. Celsius, of course, denied there was a problem. That story was back in in March, three months before the Celsius collapse. Somewhere, behind this new wrong-number/fake broker thing, there is probably an organized criminal enterprise. [1] https://www.jpost.com/Business-and-Innovation/Israeli-ministers-vote-to-ban-binary-options-sales-overseas-497195 https://www.jpost.com/Business-and-Innovation/Israeli-minist... [2] https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-binary-options-ban-is-only-a-small-victory-in-the-war-on-israeli-corruption/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-binary-options-ban-is-only... [3] https://www.timesofisrael.com/another-2-leading-israeli-blockchain-pioneers-named-as-suspects-in-vast-crypto-scam/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/another-2-leading-israeli-bloc...

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mcculley 4y ago

Florida has been selling swampland to gullible retirees from other states for a long time.

pavlov 4y ago
"These are the new leads. These are the Glengarry leads. And to you they're gold, and you don't get them."

cultofmetatron 4y ago

fortran77 4y ago
This is an outrageous untruth.
- cultofmetatron 4y ago
  my original statement was intended to be a joke but it is based on actual precendent. so here's my sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery#:~:text=Ephesians%206%3A5%2D8%20Paul,Titus%202%3A9%2D10 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery#:~:text=.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery TLDR: perfectly fine to keep non jews as slaves. Now in the interest in fairness, I want to emphasize that every culture has some shitbird crap like this going on and unlike everyone else, you could convert to judaism and thus become a non slave which was hella progressive compared to everyone else at the time. I don't see anything about white plantations holders setting their black slaves free when they adopted Christianity for instance.
  - fortran77 4y ago
    Slavery in the Hebrew Bible was limited; for example they were freed in 7 years or less. It was more like indentured servitude. The American slave trade was not justified by the Hebrew Bible. Of course, when Christians culturally appropriated it, they changed it. The Wikipedia page you linked to explains this.
    - cultofmetatron 4y ago
      my point was a clarification of a joke made. Op said his mind was blown by the idea that they'd be ok with scamming people from outside the country but not other Israelis which I then drew a comparison to slavery which had a similar restriction. that was the joke. besides, 7 years of slavery is still slavery.