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"entitlement simulators" what? I'm sorry but how are Fortnite, Call of Duty, Elden Ring, Minecraft, etc entitlement simulators? That's really scraping the botto

"entitlement simulators" what? I'm sorry but how are Fortnite, Call of Duty, Elden Ring, Minecraft, etc entitlement simulators? That's really scraping the bottom of the barrel for a narrative there. Lol at "speedrunning" being an indicator of colonialism impulse. It's as if the author of that talk is looking at the world through entitlement tinted glasses, heavily steeped in anti-colonialism and postmodernism and cannot see anything but. Any time you run any kind of business, whether it's retail or video game production, your most vocal feedback will be negative. People are 10x more likely to complain about a bad experience than rave about a good experience. Social media just makes it easier to amplify the negative feedback, since it's far more likely to go viral. Add to that the fact that people can get clout and even earn their own following from doing entertaining takedowns of bad games and you get an adversarial attention economy that people pick up on. You really have to develop a thick skin and roll with the punches.

matheusmoreira 4y ago
Completely agree with you. No idea why you're being downvoted.
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_nalply 4y ago
I usually don't play computer games. But I know Minecraft because my children play this game. To understand the game dynamics, I played Minecraft for a few days and watched Youtube videos and consumed other contents about the game. I am sure I don't know many subtleties and the Minecraft subculture, but this is not neccessary to understand what "entitlement simulator" means: I watched how my son casually killed a villager's llama then did not even pick up the remains. I asked him why he killed that animal in the game. It seemed to belong to someone! He was genuinely surprised by my question. Now I understand why he killed the llama. He had power. He had entitlement. He did it just because he could. Minecraft gave him freedom. I need to understand this because I don't want this attitude near me in real life. Luckily my son seems to know the difference between the game world and real life. But, wow, was I very surprised by the callousness of that action!!
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  This is a recognized phenomenon. Games are simulations of reality, almost always with softer rules, and players are essentially gods within that simulation. Here's a massive collection of examples: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideogameCrueltyPotential https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideogameCruelty... https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGamePerversityPotential https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGamePervers... https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatTheHellPlayer https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatTheHellPlaye... And also a massive list of positive examples: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGameCaringPotential https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGameCaringP... https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGameCrueltyPunishment https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGameCruelty... > know the difference between the game world and real life This is the norm. As far as I know, all attempts to prove otherwise have failed.
- hypertele-Xii 4y ago
  The whole point of video games is to get to do things you can't do in real life, and explore what kind of person you are through that experience. When a video game presents you with a verb, a possible action you can perform, in this case to cause damage to what's in front of you, of course players will experiment what happens when they use that verb on pretty much everything. Do you also experience moral panic when you erase a pencil drawing of a llama? That's what your son did. He erased a symbolic representation from the virtual canvas of his Minecraft world.
- barrysteve 4y ago
  You play video games for long enough and the symbol of "llama" wears off and it starts to become a symbol of "crafting ingredient for this recipe I need" and then later on it becomes "a series of button presses on the road to a speed run goal". The callousness is not against the animal. The callousness is against an uncaring mathematical system he wants to get through and towards his own goals. He doesn't see llamas in the real world as a mathematical abstraction, nor does he see human ownership of animals as arbitrary developer code.
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matheusmoreira 4y ago

Completely agree with you. No idea why you're being downvoted.

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_nalply 4y ago

I usually don't play computer games. But I know Minecraft because my children play this game. To understand the game dynamics, I played Minecraft for a few days and watched Youtube videos and consumed other contents about the game. I am sure I don't know many subtleties and the Minecraft subculture, but this is not neccessary to understand what "entitlement simulator" means: I watched how my son casually killed a villager's llama then did not even pick up the remains. I asked him why he killed that animal in the game. It seemed to belong to someone! He was genuinely surprised by my question. Now I understand why he killed the llama. He had power. He had entitlement. He did it just because he could. Minecraft gave him freedom. I need to understand this because I don't want this attitude near me in real life. Luckily my son seems to know the difference between the game world and real life. But, wow, was I very surprised by the callousness of that action!!

matheusmoreira 4y ago
This is a recognized phenomenon. Games are simulations of reality, almost always with softer rules, and players are essentially gods within that simulation. Here's a massive collection of examples: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideogameCrueltyPotential https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideogameCruelty... https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGamePerversityPotential https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGamePervers... https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatTheHellPlayer https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatTheHellPlaye... And also a massive list of positive examples: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGameCaringPotential https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGameCaringP... https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGameCrueltyPunishment https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGameCruelty... > know the difference between the game world and real life This is the norm. As far as I know, all attempts to prove otherwise have failed.
hypertele-Xii 4y ago
The whole point of video games is to get to do things you can't do in real life, and explore what kind of person you are through that experience. When a video game presents you with a verb, a possible action you can perform, in this case to cause damage to what's in front of you, of course players will experiment what happens when they use that verb on pretty much everything. Do you also experience moral panic when you erase a pencil drawing of a llama? That's what your son did. He erased a symbolic representation from the virtual canvas of his Minecraft world.
barrysteve 4y ago
You play video games for long enough and the symbol of "llama" wears off and it starts to become a symbol of "crafting ingredient for this recipe I need" and then later on it becomes "a series of button presses on the road to a speed run goal". The callousness is not against the animal. The callousness is against an uncaring mathematical system he wants to get through and towards his own goals. He doesn't see llamas in the real world as a mathematical abstraction, nor does he see human ownership of animals as arbitrary developer code.
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