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> I'd take 10x the amount of spam in my mailbox if I could get rid of all of the rest of the garbage I'm bombarded with I for one would not. Digital spam is ea

by xmprt 4y ago

> I'd take 10x the amount of spam in my mailbox if I could get rid of all of the rest of the garbage I'm bombarded with I for one would not. Digital spam is easy to deal with. There are automated filters, easy ways to block them, and the few that slip through are simple to deal with. Mailbox spam is physically painful to deal with and it's a massive waste of paper.

kube-system 4y ago
Email is the least of my problems. If you know of any good filters for SMS, phone calls, LinkedIn, Snapchat, Instagram, etc, I'd be very interested. I have to mute all of them because it is a constant stream of garbage from all of them.
- rglullis 4y ago
  For Snapchat/LinkedIn/Instagram: just close your account and put email filters?
  - kube-system 4y ago
    In that case, the problem is just as easy to solve with snail mail. Remove your mailbox and your mail will be returned as undeliverable.
    - xmprt 4y ago
      You are legally required to be reachable by mail by the US government. Unless you're planning on being an undocumented citizen living on US land off the grid, you will need a mail box.
krallja 4y ago
Paper is a renewable resource, and also a carbon sink. Throw it in the garbage and consider it carbon sequestration.
- SoftTalker 4y ago
  Unfortunately I'd bet that the paper production and delivery to your mailbox emits much more carbon than the paper itself sequesters.
  - krallja 4y ago
    Exclude that as a sunk cost: the paper is coming to your mailbox either way. The only difference is, does the carbon get sequestered in the dump, or does it prevent another artificially-fast-growing pine from being processed into paper? Which of those options is less damaging? I don’t have the data, but I feel like it’s probably pretty close.
- seoaeu 4y ago
  Long term, the paper will decompose while sitting in the landfill and then release the carbon back into the atmosphere. Even temporary sequestration is beneficial, but I don’t know whether it is still a net positive once you factor in the resources spent growing the wood, mailing the paper, and transporting it to a landfill.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    Many landfills in the US capture carbon emissions. My local landfill sells their methane to the local gas utility.
    - seoaeu 4y ago
      Many US landfills capture methane, since they can then profitably sell/burn it. I haven't seen anything about them capturing all the CO2 emitted, which would be much trickier.
    - philwelch 4y ago
      And then people burn the methane in their stove, thus producing CO2.
metadat 4y ago
It is without a doubt a shameful waste, but how is it physically painful? Did you get a paper cut Personally I find it emotionally painful and depressing to deal with. It sucks to be physically confronted with the reality that my personal contact information is being passed around like a bitch in prison.

by xmprt 4y ago

kube-system 4y ago

Email is the least of my problems. If you know of any good filters for SMS, phone calls, LinkedIn, Snapchat, Instagram, etc, I'd be very interested. I have to mute all of them because it is a constant stream of garbage from all of them.

rglullis 4y ago
For Snapchat/LinkedIn/Instagram: just close your account and put email filters?
- kube-system 4y ago
  In that case, the problem is just as easy to solve with snail mail. Remove your mailbox and your mail will be returned as undeliverable.
  - xmprt 4y ago
    You are legally required to be reachable by mail by the US government. Unless you're planning on being an undocumented citizen living on US land off the grid, you will need a mail box.

krallja 4y ago

Paper is a renewable resource, and also a carbon sink. Throw it in the garbage and consider it carbon sequestration.

SoftTalker 4y ago
Unfortunately I'd bet that the paper production and delivery to your mailbox emits much more carbon than the paper itself sequesters.
- krallja 4y ago
  Exclude that as a sunk cost: the paper is coming to your mailbox either way. The only difference is, does the carbon get sequestered in the dump, or does it prevent another artificially-fast-growing pine from being processed into paper? Which of those options is less damaging? I don’t have the data, but I feel like it’s probably pretty close.
seoaeu 4y ago
Long term, the paper will decompose while sitting in the landfill and then release the carbon back into the atmosphere. Even temporary sequestration is beneficial, but I don’t know whether it is still a net positive once you factor in the resources spent growing the wood, mailing the paper, and transporting it to a landfill.
- kube-system 4y ago
  Many landfills in the US capture carbon emissions. My local landfill sells their methane to the local gas utility.
  - seoaeu 4y ago
    Many US landfills capture methane, since they can then profitably sell/burn it. I haven't seen anything about them capturing all the CO2 emitted, which would be much trickier.
  - philwelch 4y ago
    And then people burn the methane in their stove, thus producing CO2.

metadat 4y ago

It is without a doubt a shameful waste, but how is it physically painful? Did you get a paper cut Personally I find it emotionally painful and depressing to deal with. It sucks to be physically confronted with the reality that my personal contact information is being passed around like a bitch in prison.