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So I was wondering, does this mean Meta will have to hire people who are 10x more productive and Get Things Done at a faster, more reliable pace? If there are p

by vmoore 4y ago

So I was wondering, does this mean Meta will have to hire people who are 10x more productive and Get Things Done at a faster, more reliable pace? If there are people like that who yield better results consistently, how do they manage burnout? Are they treated as the mythical 'rock-star engineer' who other companies like to poach and clamor for? 10x output is so rare in this industry, and having 10 employees that match the output of one person is seen as silly, but there's nothing wrong with hiring 10 people to do something a single person can do. Yeah sure, you have to pay out 10x more salary, but since mythical rock-star developers are in such short supply and regularly poached, I don't see a reason for clamoring for them IMHO.

downrightmike 4y ago
They are probably already trying to get two 10xers to breed a 100x.
- downrightmike 4y ago
  Apparently a few of you have never met consultants...
kleinsch 4y ago
Meta used to be able to hire those people, but with their reputation issues and other companies joining them in tier 1 pay, they have trouble getting them now. What they're dealing with is, Meta used to be a very results-based environment where people worked really hard to try to hit perf goals. 10x engs would get huge bonuses. In the last 6-8 years, it's gotten so big and bureaucratic that for many people, driving your individual metric to move is a coinflip that's out of your control. They've hired tons and tons of people in that time, so there's a good chunk of people who work a straight 40, collect their meets-all review, and live their life. I would guess Zuck wants to try to get back to where people were more motivated, but with the stock price not going through the roof and the company closing in on 100K employees, I don't see how employees are going to feel that sense of ownership or control.
deckard1 4y ago
a 10x dev is just a 1x dev that was anointed by their manager buddy. That person then goes off and dicks around for a month or two with no oversight, no code reviews, no QA, no sign-offs, no stakeholders, no Jira tickets, and pops out of their cave with a shiny new library or API free of sin, purified in the waters of Lake Minnetonka. Agile/scrum makes 10x devs impossible. Dirty secret of our industry. Management picks the winners by removing them from process.

by vmoore 4y ago

downrightmike 4y ago

They are probably already trying to get two 10xers to breed a 100x.

downrightmike 4y ago
Apparently a few of you have never met consultants...

kleinsch 4y ago

Meta used to be able to hire those people, but with their reputation issues and other companies joining them in tier 1 pay, they have trouble getting them now. What they're dealing with is, Meta used to be a very results-based environment where people worked really hard to try to hit perf goals. 10x engs would get huge bonuses. In the last 6-8 years, it's gotten so big and bureaucratic that for many people, driving your individual metric to move is a coinflip that's out of your control. They've hired tons and tons of people in that time, so there's a good chunk of people who work a straight 40, collect their meets-all review, and live their life. I would guess Zuck wants to try to get back to where people were more motivated, but with the stock price not going through the roof and the company closing in on 100K employees, I don't see how employees are going to feel that sense of ownership or control.

deckard1 4y ago

a 10x dev is just a 1x dev that was anointed by their manager buddy. That person then goes off and dicks around for a month or two with no oversight, no code reviews, no QA, no sign-offs, no stakeholders, no Jira tickets, and pops out of their cave with a shiny new library or API free of sin, purified in the waters of Lake Minnetonka. Agile/scrum makes 10x devs impossible. Dirty secret of our industry. Management picks the winners by removing them from process.