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> some of you might decide that this place isn’t for you, and that self-selection is OK with me Of course he's ok with it, no need to pay severance to employee

> some of you might decide that this place isn’t for you, and that self-selection is OK with me Of course he's ok with it, no need to pay severance to employees that "voluntarily" quit.

reaperducer 4y ago
Not just severance. Possibly unemployment. I'm not sure what the law is in California, but one state where I was fired, the company doing the firing was required to pay half of my unemployment benefits. Not surprisingly, it fought it. Which is how I found out about the law. Someone from the state unemployment department called me to get my side of the story. Then called my former employer to get its side of the story. Then told my former employer to write a check or lose its business license.
hef19898 4y ago
And for management performance, just rank those leaving in other categories than "unwanted attrition" and everything is good.
pfortuny 4y ago
Yes, that is so cheeky… We are going to put pressure so that we do not have to pay any severance because they will leave “willingly”. Good luck with keeping just the good people with that technique.
aetherson 4y ago
Facebook had more than $7B net income last quarter and has $60B cash-on-hand. While I'm sure that, ceteris paribus, they're more happy if low performers quit than have to be laid off, I'm equally sure that if they felt like they could go through and cut out low performers right now, and the only cost to do so was paying severance, they'd be happy to do it. The idea that Facebook or Zuckerberg of all people has an unwillingness to pay short-term costs for long term benefits is crazy. There's a difference between being cynical about a corporation and being willing to attribute every bad trait in the world unconditionally to every corporation without any reflection.
bregma 4y ago
There's a reason why constructive dismissal is illegal in any sane jurisdiction. The catch is you usually have to prove it to a court or tribunal. The CEO saying he's doing in in public communications is probably pretty solid evidence.

> some of you might decide that this place isn’t for you, and that self-selection is OK with me Of course he's ok with it, no need to pay severance to employees that "voluntarily" quit.

reaperducer 4y ago

Not just severance. Possibly unemployment. I'm not sure what the law is in California, but one state where I was fired, the company doing the firing was required to pay half of my unemployment benefits. Not surprisingly, it fought it. Which is how I found out about the law. Someone from the state unemployment department called me to get my side of the story. Then called my former employer to get its side of the story. Then told my former employer to write a check or lose its business license.

hef19898 4y ago

And for management performance, just rank those leaving in other categories than "unwanted attrition" and everything is good.

pfortuny 4y ago

Yes, that is so cheeky… We are going to put pressure so that we do not have to pay any severance because they will leave “willingly”. Good luck with keeping just the good people with that technique.

aetherson 4y ago

Facebook had more than $7B net income last quarter and has $60B cash-on-hand. While I'm sure that, ceteris paribus, they're more happy if low performers quit than have to be laid off, I'm equally sure that if they felt like they could go through and cut out low performers right now, and the only cost to do so was paying severance, they'd be happy to do it. The idea that Facebook or Zuckerberg of all people has an unwillingness to pay short-term costs for long term benefits is crazy. There's a difference between being cynical about a corporation and being willing to attribute every bad trait in the world unconditionally to every corporation without any reflection.

bregma 4y ago

There's a reason why constructive dismissal is illegal in any sane jurisdiction. The catch is you usually have to prove it to a court or tribunal. The CEO saying he's doing in in public communications is probably pretty solid evidence.