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Mark Zuckerberg: We’re ‘turning up the heat’ at Meta so employees will quit
- achow 4y agoDuplicate. Discussion thread.. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31941777 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31941777
- dang 4y agoComments moved thither. Thanks!
- ramesh31 4y agoThe New York Post is a tabloid rag. Are there any legitimate sources for this quote?
- qclibre22 4y agoThe tabloid rag cites Reuters as a source : https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-meta-girds-fierce-headwinds-slower-growth-second-half-memo-2022-06-30/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-meta-girds-fier...
- ramesh31 4y agoChurnalism at its' finest
- eddieroger 4y agoSo you asked for a better source, got one, then don't like the source? Would you prefer having heard it first-hand from Zuckerberg himself?
- colesantiago 4y agoIt's not a valid source if the New York Post cites it as one /s
- ss108 4y agoIt is, but they don't tend to outright fabricate quotes (they aren't Breitbart or something). Their source for the quote seems to be this Reuters article: https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-meta-girds-fierce-headwinds-slower-growth-second-half-memo-2022-06-30/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-meta-girds-fier...
- notlukesky 4y agoThe tabloid rag that publishes stories that the NY Times (and Washington Post) acknowledges as truth more than a year later. What does that make the NY Times and Washington Post? https://nypost.com/2022/04/01/new-york-times-finally-admit-hunters-laptop-is-real-but-only-to-protect-joe-biden/amp/ https://nypost.com/2022/04/01/new-york-times-finally-admit-h...
- refurb 4y agoThat’s fair. A touch indelicate, but fair.
- ajcp 4y agoAccording to the "tabloid rag" themselves. That's really not the best way to back up your point. The links contained in that article referencing an "admission" just go to another NYPost article referencing the same "admission". Those links then go to other NYPost articles doing the same... I finally got to a link that took me to a NYTimes article[0] that did reference the laptop and e-mails. Those references also contained a link to a NYTimes article[1] from more than a year ago referencing the existence of, and analyzing what was known about, the laptop and emails in question. What a conspiracy. What a miscarriage of journalistic integrity! 0. https://archive.ph/Z2yeW https://archive.ph/Z2yeW 1. https://archive.ph/NsVQ9 https://archive.ph/NsVQ9
- ramesh31 4y agoBut Hunter Biden owned a laptop! And Hillary had an email server! And they both contained files! Files with things in them! Which things you ask? Click this link to see the top 7 theories!
- seti0Cha 4y agoIf you want to make an argument that the contents of that email server or Joe Biden's laptop were of no interest, actually do it. I'm open to persuasion. Mocking, on the other hand, I find unconvincing.
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- IncRnd 4y agoIn the third sentence you'll find a source link to the Reuters' article.
- tptacek 4y agoThis article is basically blogspam of this Reuters piece: https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-meta-girds-fierce-headwinds-slower-growth-second-half-memo-2022-06-30/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-meta-girds-fier... That's generally the case for the NY Post, where you'll usually find a better source linked within the first few grafs of their stories.
- dredmorbius 4y agoRight, and that's already been submitted: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31941777 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31941777 This (NYPost) thread is a dupe
- PragmaticPulp 4y agoThank you. The Reuters article is much better. Most of the comments here are debating the heavily editorialized NY Post headline which implies that Zuckerberg said something that he did not say at all ("...so employees will quit" was added by the NY Post).
- berberous 4y agoI mean he did basically say that: “Part of my hope by raising expectations and having more aggressive goals, and just kind of turning up the heat a little bit, is that I think some of you might decide that this place isn't for you, and that self-selection is OK with me," he said. Obviously he wants underperformers to quit and not his best people.
- gwern 4y agoAnd also buries one of the most interesting points: they need 5 times their current number of datacenter GPUs just to power their current plans for ML expansion!
- holtkam2 4y agobecause of this comment I actually read the reuters piece lol
- kkfx 4y agoAs an European I'm curious about such management ideas: I work to live, not the contrary, so if a company try to stress me to munge better performances that company it's better to fail. Emergency are emergency and during them stress is part of the game, artificially created stress to whip workers is, at least here, a good way to get only desperate workers who just need keeping their source of income, talents knows they can get better jobs or makes their own activity if needed. Maybe the recent "unionization rush" in the USA should remember such concept to employers: people do not work FOR a company for the company success as a personal success, but for money to do something, and that means work as relaxed as possible. People who work for company success are entrepreneurs and they got no salary but profits. They can't be workers in a company with more than few people.