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I don't think that's exactly true. Nintendo did give people what they wanted with Twilight Princess. Both of those games had around 9.5 - 9.6 ratings, and the

I don't think that's exactly true. Nintendo did give people what they wanted with Twilight Princess. Both of those games had around 9.5 - 9.6 ratings, and the realistic Twilight Princess was the best selling Zelda until Breath of the Wild came out. I think a very loud minority likes Wind Waker, but sales show something a bit different.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
That analysis discounts that the GameCube[0], on which WW was released exclusively until the Wii U[1] HD remake, had vastly lower user count than the incredibly popular Wii[2], which had a Twilight Princess release simultaneously with the GCN. [0] 21.4M units sold [1] Even lower, only 13.5M units [2] 101.6M units
- stuckinhell 4y ago
  http://www.gamedesigngazette.com/2018/01/the-legend-of-zelda-global-sales.html http://www.gamedesigngazette.com/2018/01/the-legend-of-zelda... year platform title sales 2002 GC Wind Waker 4,430,000 2013 Wii U The Wind Waker HD 2,310,000 2006 Wii/GC Twilight Princess 8,850,000 2016 Wii U Twilight Princess HD 1,130,000 Twilight princess is still more popular if you look at sales.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
    I don't see how this contradicts what I'm saying: it sold more because it had a (significantly) larger user base to sell to in the first place. If Twilight Princess is so much more popular, why did its HD remake sell less than half of Wind Waker's?
    - stuckinhell 4y ago
      Because most people who wanted to play it, already played it.
  - djur 4y ago
    Your list shows Wind Waker selling twice as many units when released on the same platform as Twilight Princess. There are confounding factors here (the Wind Waker re-release may have had a larger "missed it the first time" audience, and there were probably fewer active Wii U users in 2016 than 2013) but it's the closest thing to an apples to apples comparison here.
    - toast0 4y ago
      Another big confounder is that the WiiU won't play gamecube games, but it will play Wii games, so someone who wanted to play Wind Waker and has a WiiU needs to buy the WiiU version, but someone with a WiiU and wants to play Twilight Princess can buy the Wii version or the WiiU version.
    - norwalkbear 4y ago
      So what? Zelda is a system seller. When Wind Waker came out, people hated it, sales for twilight princess show people at the time DID want a realistic zelda. Even Miyamoto didn't care for the Wind Waker Style. It looks like people are trying to say the Zelda Effect is something it's not. Wind Waker isn't more beloved then any other. In fact at best, it's par for the course. However, most fans prefer a more realistic Link, it's clear from looking at extended media like fanart, smash brother( toon link is a different character), even many Nintendo developers say the same in interviews. The Zelda Effect isnt a thing.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago

That analysis discounts that the GameCube[0], on which WW was released exclusively until the Wii U[1] HD remake, had vastly lower user count than the incredibly popular Wii[2], which had a Twilight Princess release simultaneously with the GCN. [0] 21.4M units sold [1] Even lower, only 13.5M units [2] 101.6M units

stuckinhell 4y ago
http://www.gamedesigngazette.com/2018/01/the-legend-of-zelda-global-sales.html http://www.gamedesigngazette.com/2018/01/the-legend-of-zelda... year platform title sales 2002 GC Wind Waker 4,430,000 2013 Wii U The Wind Waker HD 2,310,000 2006 Wii/GC Twilight Princess 8,850,000 2016 Wii U Twilight Princess HD 1,130,000 Twilight princess is still more popular if you look at sales.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
  I don't see how this contradicts what I'm saying: it sold more because it had a (significantly) larger user base to sell to in the first place. If Twilight Princess is so much more popular, why did its HD remake sell less than half of Wind Waker's?
  - stuckinhell 4y ago
    Because most people who wanted to play it, already played it.
- djur 4y ago
  Your list shows Wind Waker selling twice as many units when released on the same platform as Twilight Princess. There are confounding factors here (the Wind Waker re-release may have had a larger "missed it the first time" audience, and there were probably fewer active Wii U users in 2016 than 2013) but it's the closest thing to an apples to apples comparison here.
  - toast0 4y ago
    Another big confounder is that the WiiU won't play gamecube games, but it will play Wii games, so someone who wanted to play Wind Waker and has a WiiU needs to buy the WiiU version, but someone with a WiiU and wants to play Twilight Princess can buy the Wii version or the WiiU version.
  - norwalkbear 4y ago
    So what? Zelda is a system seller. When Wind Waker came out, people hated it, sales for twilight princess show people at the time DID want a realistic zelda. Even Miyamoto didn't care for the Wind Waker Style. It looks like people are trying to say the Zelda Effect is something it's not. Wind Waker isn't more beloved then any other. In fact at best, it's par for the course. However, most fans prefer a more realistic Link, it's clear from looking at extended media like fanart, smash brother( toon link is a different character), even many Nintendo developers say the same in interviews. The Zelda Effect isnt a thing.