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I think we forget over time and become complacent to the strong possibility that the US maintaining its economic and defense hegemony has generally resulted in

I think we forget over time and become complacent to the strong possibility that the US maintaining its economic and defense hegemony has generally resulted in fewer people doing bad things. So you go from a generation who used the military might to stop literal Nazis and effectively save the world, to more of a lull where people forget that and start calling for a removal of all foreign bases and a reduction in might, to being smacked by the reality again that bad people predictably do bad things, such as russias invasion of ukraine, and it’s good overall that we have this military might, even if not everyone appreciates it.

formerkrogemp 4y ago
Let me fix this for you. > I think we forget over time and become complacent to the strong possibility that the US maintaining its economic and defense hegemony has generally resulted in fewer non-American people doing bad things. American hegemony is mostly good for the US. Let's not lie about doing 'good' elsewhere. American actions have destabilized many countries and governments to secure and advance American interests. Have American citizens benefited? Probably. > So you go from a generation who used the military might to stop literal Nazis and effectively save the world. Follow that up with generations of overthrowing democratically elected governments and fostering civil wars globally. > to more of a lull where people forget that and start calling for a removal of all foreign bases and a reduction in might, to being smacked by the reality again that bad people predictably do bad things, such as russias invasion of ukraine. I don't think people want a removal of all naval bases or military presence, just enough to pay for fucking healthcare, teachers, food, bridges, and housing. You know the usual basic necessities for life. I guess killing and maiming people around the world is just easier to do. > it’s good overall that we have this military might, even if not everyone appreciates it. That remains to be seen. Tell me that in a few years when we have more guns than food and water. As always, unless you're colorblind, the world exists in color, not black and white.
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- elbigbad 4y ago
  I mean, the comment I was responding to literally said, and I quote, “End all wars. Bring all troops home. Close all foreign bases.” So it does seem to me that at least some people want this.
  - formerkrogemp 4y ago
    > End all wars. Bring all troops home. Close all foreign bases. It's a nice sound bite, but it doesn't work that way does it?

formerkrogemp 4y ago

Let me fix this for you. > I think we forget over time and become complacent to the strong possibility that the US maintaining its economic and defense hegemony has generally resulted in fewer non-American people doing bad things. American hegemony is mostly good for the US. Let's not lie about doing 'good' elsewhere. American actions have destabilized many countries and governments to secure and advance American interests. Have American citizens benefited? Probably. > So you go from a generation who used the military might to stop literal Nazis and effectively save the world. Follow that up with generations of overthrowing democratically elected governments and fostering civil wars globally. > to more of a lull where people forget that and start calling for a removal of all foreign bases and a reduction in might, to being smacked by the reality again that bad people predictably do bad things, such as russias invasion of ukraine. I don't think people want a removal of all naval bases or military presence, just enough to pay for fucking healthcare, teachers, food, bridges, and housing. You know the usual basic necessities for life. I guess killing and maiming people around the world is just easier to do. > it’s good overall that we have this military might, even if not everyone appreciates it. That remains to be seen. Tell me that in a few years when we have more guns than food and water. As always, unless you're colorblind, the world exists in color, not black and white.

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elbigbad 4y ago
I mean, the comment I was responding to literally said, and I quote, “End all wars. Bring all troops home. Close all foreign bases.” So it does seem to me that at least some people want this.
- formerkrogemp 4y ago
  > End all wars. Bring all troops home. Close all foreign bases. It's a nice sound bite, but it doesn't work that way does it?