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I think the highly aspirational nature of the claims about V upon its original launch are why it attracted so much scrutiny. It claimed to do a lot of things an

I think the highly aspirational nature of the claims about V upon its original launch are why it attracted so much scrutiny. It claimed to do a lot of things and didn't clearly separate things that might be delivered in the future from those that would be features present in the language today. And, judging by the review linked upthread, as of last month this has remained the case. For this reason, I'm not surprised that the scrutiny continues.

amedvednikov 4y ago
If you look at other posts in this thread, you'll see that this review is completely irrelevant since the bugs it complained about were fixed in several 3 line commits.
- striking 4y ago
  I won't pretend to be up to date on your language and what is fixed or working, but if it was so easy to fix these bugs that were apparently so trivial, why weren't they fixed before announcing / releasing the features? Even just communicating that a feature isn't done yet and may need a little more time (e.g. a beta tag) would go a long way in rebuilding trust with people outside your community. Meanwhile, defensive reactions like those I see in and around this thread make me feel like I trust you less.
  - amedvednikov 4y ago
    I'm sorry but that makes completely no sense. "Why didn't you release software without any bugs?" That's not how the world works. And it's open source, where hundreds of contributors help you find and fix these bugs. That's the whole point.
    - striking 4y ago
      As I said in my previous reply, you're more than welcome to stick a beta tag on something that isn't ready for prime time yet. Take a look at Rust and their releases as an example of the ultimate in building a stable foundation that people trust. I'm not asking you to never ship a bug. I'm saying I don't trust you or your language and giving you an example of how you might regain my trust. Feel free to ignore my advice, but if your goal is to encourage more people to use your language instead of encouraging more people to fight you, maybe you could at least give the impression that you were willing to hear someone out instead of telling them their opinion doesn't make any sense at all.
      - amedvednikov 4y ago
        It literally says V 0.3 in the very center of the website. First thing.
        striking 4y ago
        Yeah, and that's not enough. I guess I'll hold off on trying your language until 1.0.

amedvednikov 4y ago

If you look at other posts in this thread, you'll see that this review is completely irrelevant since the bugs it complained about were fixed in several 3 line commits.

striking 4y ago
I won't pretend to be up to date on your language and what is fixed or working, but if it was so easy to fix these bugs that were apparently so trivial, why weren't they fixed before announcing / releasing the features? Even just communicating that a feature isn't done yet and may need a little more time (e.g. a beta tag) would go a long way in rebuilding trust with people outside your community. Meanwhile, defensive reactions like those I see in and around this thread make me feel like I trust you less.
- amedvednikov 4y ago
  I'm sorry but that makes completely no sense. "Why didn't you release software without any bugs?" That's not how the world works. And it's open source, where hundreds of contributors help you find and fix these bugs. That's the whole point.
  - striking 4y ago
    As I said in my previous reply, you're more than welcome to stick a beta tag on something that isn't ready for prime time yet. Take a look at Rust and their releases as an example of the ultimate in building a stable foundation that people trust. I'm not asking you to never ship a bug. I'm saying I don't trust you or your language and giving you an example of how you might regain my trust. Feel free to ignore my advice, but if your goal is to encourage more people to use your language instead of encouraging more people to fight you, maybe you could at least give the impression that you were willing to hear someone out instead of telling them their opinion doesn't make any sense at all.
    - amedvednikov 4y ago
      It literally says V 0.3 in the very center of the website. First thing.
      - striking 4y ago
        Yeah, and that's not enough. I guess I'll hold off on trying your language until 1.0.