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I lived in London between 2011-2014, just before I left my internet connection was upgraded from an extremely unreliable ADSL that wasnt strong enough to open t

by dijit 4y ago

I lived in London between 2011-2014, just before I left my internet connection was upgraded from an extremely unreliable ADSL that wasnt strong enough to open twitter after 5pm and would randomly drop entire internet prefixes: to symmetric 1G FTTC with IPv6. Why? Because the Olympic infrastructure investments were being sold off and providers were just paying for the last mile. Internet is an insane economic multiplier and the City would have suffered massively during the pandemic had this infrastructure improvement not happened. Should it have happened independently? Definitely. Would it? I wouldn't bet on it. So, I think its easy to overlook these second order effects, but I witnessed it first hand- I was seriously considering leaving the capitol due to the inability to be on-call effectively; I didn't have mobile data in my apartment either.

alexalx666 4y ago
yes, but, If you don't have any control over essential infra via government reps or something its just bad and you should help change that, following your logic if there is an explosion in old housing its ok since the housing infra will be updated
gumby 4y ago
This is like a deranged version of Bastiat's broken window fallacy. The silver lining of bombing a city flat is all the construction jobs that are created.
Reason077 4y ago
Multiple companies are, to this day, regularly digging up streets all over London to install 1G+ FTTH, so I'm not sure it had too much to do with the Olympics. Personally I'm not sure fibre is even all that important anymore. My previous flat had abysmal slow ADSL, and no fibre available, but blisteringly fast 5G that you could get for £30/month with no contract.
- dijit 4y ago
  Hyperoptic (my ISP at the time) wouldn't have rolled out FTTC if not for the back-haul capacity supplied from the Olympic village. I didn't have 4G/LTE (or even 3G) in my flat. It was really untenable. I don't really understand the other replies to my comment, are people upset that houses got demolished? lots of single family homes are gone but there's a lot more mid/high density in the area now. Towers in Stratford that came about from the developments in the area. I was living in Bow in mid-density apartment blocks (4-5 floors, near Devon Road DLR) if that helps give context.

by dijit 4y ago

alexalx666 4y ago

yes, but, If you don't have any control over essential infra via government reps or something its just bad and you should help change that, following your logic if there is an explosion in old housing its ok since the housing infra will be updated

gumby 4y ago

This is like a deranged version of Bastiat's broken window fallacy. The silver lining of bombing a city flat is all the construction jobs that are created.

Reason077 4y ago

Multiple companies are, to this day, regularly digging up streets all over London to install 1G+ FTTH, so I'm not sure it had too much to do with the Olympics. Personally I'm not sure fibre is even all that important anymore. My previous flat had abysmal slow ADSL, and no fibre available, but blisteringly fast 5G that you could get for £30/month with no contract.

dijit 4y ago
Hyperoptic (my ISP at the time) wouldn't have rolled out FTTC if not for the back-haul capacity supplied from the Olympic village. I didn't have 4G/LTE (or even 3G) in my flat. It was really untenable. I don't really understand the other replies to my comment, are people upset that houses got demolished? lots of single family homes are gone but there's a lot more mid/high density in the area now. Towers in Stratford that came about from the developments in the area. I was living in Bow in mid-density apartment blocks (4-5 floors, near Devon Road DLR) if that helps give context.