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Something I believe is that persistent satire and sincere belief are indistinguishable in many settings, and that persistent application of satire tends to cult

Something I believe is that persistent satire and sincere belief are indistinguishable in many settings, and that persistent application of satire tends to cultivate sincere belief in the same thing as the idea spreads around. Not that I think Italians look down on Hawaiian pizza as a result of satire, that's more that Italians often see a national dish that's been heavily evolved overseas in a negative light, and Hawaiian pizza is the shining example of it to be seized upon. Chicago Deep Dish being another. But online it's definitely an issue - Ironic shit-posting of dumb things eventually leads to areas chock full of people with those exact beliefs for real. That's how meme magic works. Meme something, no matter how dumb, persistently enough, and it'll enter the collective conscious as a sincerely held belief.

rascul 4y ago
> Hawaiian pizza I've always found that name amusing. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_pizza https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_pizza : > Sam Panopoulos, a Greek-born Canadian, created the first Hawaiian pizza at the Satellite Restaurant in Chatham, Ontario, Canada in 1962. Inspired in part by his experience preparing Chinese dishes which commonly mix sweet and savory flavours, Panopoulos experimented with adding pineapple, ham, bacon, and other toppings. These additions were not initially very popular. > The addition of pineapple to the traditional mix of tomato sauce and cheese, along with either ham or bacon, later became popular locally and eventually became a staple offering of pizzerias on a global scale. The name of this creation is, in fact, actually not directly inspired by the U.S. state of Hawaii at all; Panopoulos chose the name Hawaiian after the brand of canned pineapple they were using at the time.
- FooHentai 4y ago
  Hah, that's great. Hawaiian pizza always made sense to me since I grew up in the UK in the eighties, where pork/gammon with canned pineapple rings was an ordinary evening meal (bear in mind, this was close to the era of Salmon Mousse, many culinary crimes were committed around that time). I guess the association between pineapple and Hawaii is in and of itself kinda odd too, since I think they're native to South America.
  - nikau 4y ago
    Hawaiian pizza was probably the most popular pizza in Australia in the 80s also. Even though I'm a bit of a pizza snob I still enjoy a Hawaiian pizza occasionally, somehow the combination of trashy shredded processed ham and pineapple just works well.
    - FooHentai 4y ago
      Try sprinkling some chili flakes on top. I didn't expect it to be good but it's amazing.
- sybercecurity 4y ago
  There are lots of weird stories behind famous dishes. Like the Pu Pu Platter that is seen in American Chinese restaurants. The version everyone knows comes from Trader Vic's, which basically had (Americanized) Cantonese food like char siu and spring rolls with vaguely Pacific islander names. Then it started appearing in American Chinese restaurants.

rascul 4y ago

> Hawaiian pizza I've always found that name amusing. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_pizza https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_pizza : > Sam Panopoulos, a Greek-born Canadian, created the first Hawaiian pizza at the Satellite Restaurant in Chatham, Ontario, Canada in 1962. Inspired in part by his experience preparing Chinese dishes which commonly mix sweet and savory flavours, Panopoulos experimented with adding pineapple, ham, bacon, and other toppings. These additions were not initially very popular. > The addition of pineapple to the traditional mix of tomato sauce and cheese, along with either ham or bacon, later became popular locally and eventually became a staple offering of pizzerias on a global scale. The name of this creation is, in fact, actually not directly inspired by the U.S. state of Hawaii at all; Panopoulos chose the name Hawaiian after the brand of canned pineapple they were using at the time.

FooHentai 4y ago
Hah, that's great. Hawaiian pizza always made sense to me since I grew up in the UK in the eighties, where pork/gammon with canned pineapple rings was an ordinary evening meal (bear in mind, this was close to the era of Salmon Mousse, many culinary crimes were committed around that time). I guess the association between pineapple and Hawaii is in and of itself kinda odd too, since I think they're native to South America.
- nikau 4y ago
  Hawaiian pizza was probably the most popular pizza in Australia in the 80s also. Even though I'm a bit of a pizza snob I still enjoy a Hawaiian pizza occasionally, somehow the combination of trashy shredded processed ham and pineapple just works well.
  - FooHentai 4y ago
    Try sprinkling some chili flakes on top. I didn't expect it to be good but it's amazing.
sybercecurity 4y ago
There are lots of weird stories behind famous dishes. Like the Pu Pu Platter that is seen in American Chinese restaurants. The version everyone knows comes from Trader Vic's, which basically had (Americanized) Cantonese food like char siu and spring rolls with vaguely Pacific islander names. Then it started appearing in American Chinese restaurants.