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The thing that worries me here is that supporters of free software wants to strengthen copyright. I would have thought that most were against IP in general or a

The thing that worries me here is that supporters of free software wants to strengthen copyright. I would have thought that most were against IP in general or at least in favor of making it weaker. Is protecting your code against Copilot really worth giving this weapon to Disney?

alpaca128 4y ago
Go create the movie counterpart of Copilot based on Disney material and you'll see how little Disney lawyers need additional "weapons" to sue you to hell and back.
Timwi 4y ago
Can't speak for others, but I don't want to strengthen copyright at all, I want to strengthen copyleft: anyone should be able to make something like Copilot, but nobody should be allowed to hoard it to themselves and charge money for it. It should just be free.
goodpoint 4y ago
> free software wants to strengthen copyright. I would have thought that most were against IP in general That's a misunderstanding. In a world without any concept of authorship and copyright, people would share, modify and redistribute books, drawing, musical scores... But most software can be compiled (and even obfuscated), making it unpractical to further modify and redistribute a copy. This means than in such word closed source would be still present. And freeload from FOSS without even giving attribution. FOSS is about building a cooperative development model. Copyleft is based on copyright laws simply because there's no other legal instrument to ensure that software remains open.
- dento 4y ago
  > But most software can be compiled (and even obfuscated), making it unpractical to further modify and redistribute a copy. Tell that to people who remove DRM restrictions, fix bugs and then distribute the result. The only reason there aren't companies and university courses dedicated for such modifications is that it's illegal.
  - goodpoint 4y ago
    What part of "unpractical" did you not understand? You expect a FOSS ecosystem to flourish with people sharing only patched binaries?

alpaca128 4y ago

Go create the movie counterpart of Copilot based on Disney material and you'll see how little Disney lawyers need additional "weapons" to sue you to hell and back.

Timwi 4y ago

Can't speak for others, but I don't want to strengthen copyright at all, I want to strengthen copyleft: anyone should be able to make something like Copilot, but nobody should be allowed to hoard it to themselves and charge money for it. It should just be free.

goodpoint 4y ago

> free software wants to strengthen copyright. I would have thought that most were against IP in general That's a misunderstanding. In a world without any concept of authorship and copyright, people would share, modify and redistribute books, drawing, musical scores... But most software can be compiled (and even obfuscated), making it unpractical to further modify and redistribute a copy. This means than in such word closed source would be still present. And freeload from FOSS without even giving attribution. FOSS is about building a cooperative development model. Copyleft is based on copyright laws simply because there's no other legal instrument to ensure that software remains open.

dento 4y ago
> But most software can be compiled (and even obfuscated), making it unpractical to further modify and redistribute a copy. Tell that to people who remove DRM restrictions, fix bugs and then distribute the result. The only reason there aren't companies and university courses dedicated for such modifications is that it's illegal.
- goodpoint 4y ago
  What part of "unpractical" did you not understand? You expect a FOSS ecosystem to flourish with people sharing only patched binaries?