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some westerners have this curse of thinking that their government and corporations are always the good guys with best intentions. at least easterners [usually]
by medo-bear 4y ago
some westerners have this curse of thinking that their government and corporations are always the good guys with best intentions. at least easterners [usually] dont trust either
- rzhikharevich 4y agoNot quite sure about easterners. At least most Russians seem to have entrusted a certain former KGB agent :)
- medo-bear 4y agoi dont think voting for someone into leadership is equivalent to thinking they are nice, good, trustworthy, etc. it could be as simple as no better alternative
- onedognight 4y agoThere is no ‘voting’ when the government controls the media and any opposition gaining momentum is inevitably jailed, poisoned or falls out a window.
- medo-bear 4y agoor when there was you just bomb the parliament [0] except that time the west fully supported this brutality. selective democracy? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_cr...
- avgcorrection 4y agoGP said that it’s a dictatorship. Now you imply that they chose Putin. Which is it?
- CoastalCoder 4y agoNot sure the GP had this mind, but if Putin won a free election before becoming an autocrat, that would satisfy both constraints.
- medo-bear 4y agoI think the difference is this Russian Government: We will bomb X because they pose a threat to Russia's interests American Government: We will bomb X because they need freedom
- avgcorrection 4y agoAt what point does the democractic mandate run out? He’s been in power for a awhile.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoHe had already been appointed to a position where he had the power to rig his first election.
- iostream24 4y agoI think it’s rather that, in a bicameral parliamentary representative democracy one knows that one is ultimately partially responsible for those in office, and one cannot just shrug and blame higher ups.
- iostream24 4y agoBut yes, I agree that cynical histories create less trust
- anonymoushn 4y agoMaybe the huge majorities of voters who support m4a and abortion rights should simply have voted!
- curiousgal 4y agoWhile that is true, let's not pretend that gerrymandering is not a thing.
- medo-bear 4y agofrom my personal experience people in the east (and perhaps south) usually look at their rep dem system much more cynically than people in the west (and north). and this attitude is very much reinforced by american patriotism freedom and democracy myth-making. i find its achievements absolutely amazing. how indigenous people and those that not that long ago were subdued into slavery can now be patriotic to the same flag that brought them so much misery is baffling to me
- unclebucknasty 4y agoEDIT: Earnestness of previous reply underestimated parent commenter's commitment to cynicism. Deleted.
- medo-bear 4y agook