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Exactly this is my guess too. Literally everyone is seeing these very obvious spam comments everywhere. Have a few people monitor comment sections manually and

Exactly this is my guess too. Literally everyone is seeing these very obvious spam comments everywhere. Have a few people monitor comment sections manually and then maybe one guy who goes over the spam ones and come up with a regex-like matching rule to detect these and move them to the "potential spam" section of the creator's dashboard. It's gonna be whack-a-mole but it's rather responsive. I get it, they want to automate everything, but evidently that only gets you so far, your model will never be at 100%, and we didn't even get to false positives yet.

MauranKilom 4y ago
That means you're now selecting for all the spammers that are somehow evading the eyes of that crew. It doesn't matter whether they are doing it intentionally initially, this un-natural selection will inevitably lead to spammers figuring out how to not be seen by those Google people.
- jfoster 4y ago
  It sounds like you're assuming that Google sticks to a single approach and doesn't waver from it, despite spam still being present. They wouldn't do it like that, though, would they?
  - MauranKilom 4y ago
    The point is more that, unless Google keeps continuously expanding their approach along every dimension, whichever spammers happen to be evading them at any given point will stick around and multiply.
    - jfoster 4y ago
      The thing about spam is that as it becomes more evasive, it's also less clear for the humans it was intended for. Once they raise the bar high enough, the spam will be gone.
    - iforgotpassword 4y ago
      But what are you suggesting then? Not even trying and accepting the fate of YouTube drowning in spam? Keep chasing the dream of the perfect spam fighting AI that's been just around the corner for the last 5 years? Incidentally LTT just commented on the announced changes and rants about the prior situation at 15:20, for some insight from a Creator's perspective. https://youtu.be/hf5N2UVGp-8 https://youtu.be/hf5N2UVGp-8

MauranKilom 4y ago

That means you're now selecting for all the spammers that are somehow evading the eyes of that crew. It doesn't matter whether they are doing it intentionally initially, this un-natural selection will inevitably lead to spammers figuring out how to not be seen by those Google people.

jfoster 4y ago
It sounds like you're assuming that Google sticks to a single approach and doesn't waver from it, despite spam still being present. They wouldn't do it like that, though, would they?
- MauranKilom 4y ago
  The point is more that, unless Google keeps continuously expanding their approach along every dimension, whichever spammers happen to be evading them at any given point will stick around and multiply.
  - jfoster 4y ago
    The thing about spam is that as it becomes more evasive, it's also less clear for the humans it was intended for. Once they raise the bar high enough, the spam will be gone.
  - iforgotpassword 4y ago
    But what are you suggesting then? Not even trying and accepting the fate of YouTube drowning in spam? Keep chasing the dream of the perfect spam fighting AI that's been just around the corner for the last 5 years? Incidentally LTT just commented on the announced changes and rants about the prior situation at 15:20, for some insight from a Creator's perspective. https://youtu.be/hf5N2UVGp-8 https://youtu.be/hf5N2UVGp-8