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Who the fuck is buying vegan meat and being like "oh I thought this was meat"? Do we seriously need to legislate that? There's no real victim here, it's just a

Who the fuck is buying vegan meat and being like "oh I thought this was meat"? Do we seriously need to legislate that? There's no real victim here, it's just a bunch of people who are sour or feel threatened by meat alternatives. It's ridiculous.

jzwinck 4y ago
Just this week I bought two tubs of vegan yogurt by mistake. They were the same shape, size and color as the milk based yogurts sitting all around them on the shelf. The only clue was the word "soya" printed at the bottom edge of the tubs in small letters. The kind of letters you'd expect to tell you something like the container size or the country the milk came from. To be fair this vegan nogurt tastes almost the same as the real thing. But I did not appreciate being tricked into buying it.
- oregano 4y ago
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  - jdasdf 4y ago
    Do you genuinely not see a problem with people being deceived about what they are buying and eating?
    - 31835843 4y ago
    - oregano 4y ago
      Of course I see a problem. Transparency should always be a top priority. My intention was not to disagree with you, just to provide a different lens to view this. After all, are most American consumers aware of the conditions in which the animals they eat are raised (what they are fed, how they are treated, what types of drugs they are given, how long they live, general quality of life, etc…)? I believe this is just as important as what gets printed on a label.
    - mike00632 4y ago
      Do you realize that almost everyone who buys animal products is being tricked into doing so? It's critical that food companies keep people in the dark about how animal products are made.
  - myvoiceismypass 4y ago
    Also, it is never a bad thing to actually read the labels of the food one stuffs into their body.
Ekaros 4y ago
I would love to start product line "Beyond Vegan" with tag line of "better than vegan food" with Vegan word being very big. And then have it contain lot of meat. Entirely honest and not in any way misleading marketing. And no vegan should be able to complain.
- mvdwoord 4y ago
  Perfect illustration! Thanks.
- HermanMartinus 4y ago
  I think this is misleading in the effect is has. Omnivores still eat non-meat products, but the inverse isn't true and is in-fact pretty fucked up (if the person being deceived believes that eating beef is akin to eating dogs). I agree that products shouldn't be deceptive, but this is a false dichotomy. More accurately the example should be "Beef Burger", then have it written in small "(dog meat)" as (at least in the West) even meat eaters don't like the idea of eating dogs.
  - Ekaros 4y ago
    Both beef and canine meat are from mammals. There isn't really much difference between those. Ofc reasonable labelling is reasonable to expect. But they are still meat and nearly every human including vegans can perfectly well eat either. Same does not apply to companies that try to mislead people by calling something not meat meat or cheese or so on.
    - wumpus 4y ago
      > nearly every human including vegans can perfectly well eat either. If you haven't eaten meat for decades, you will probably become violently ill if you eat meat.
      - Ekaros 4y ago
        So like vegan products that have similar effects? And then some people don't even offer right diets to either group...
cameronh90 4y ago
I am veg and I recently accidentally bought and ate a real duck wrap because it looked (and tasted) almost identical to the vegan duck wrap. However, I am just generally not very observant. I frequently buy sparkling water by accident.
tvaughan 4y ago
> t's just a bunch of people who are sour or feel threatened by meat alternatives Kast, a right-wing populist politician in Chile, made a big stink during his failed presidential bid over "Not Milk." He said only milk from "happy cows" should be promoted. These so-called proponents of the free market sure do hate competition. https://www.cnnchile.com/pais/kast-critico-notmilk-necesitamos-potenciar-leche-natural-vaca-feliz_20211118/ https://www.cnnchile.com/pais/kast-critico-notmilk-necesitam...
- wumpus 4y ago
  Demonizing minorities, especially unpopular minorities, is not a good sign in a politician.

jzwinck 4y ago

Just this week I bought two tubs of vegan yogurt by mistake. They were the same shape, size and color as the milk based yogurts sitting all around them on the shelf. The only clue was the word "soya" printed at the bottom edge of the tubs in small letters. The kind of letters you'd expect to tell you something like the container size or the country the milk came from. To be fair this vegan nogurt tastes almost the same as the real thing. But I did not appreciate being tricked into buying it.

oregano 4y ago
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- jdasdf 4y ago
  Do you genuinely not see a problem with people being deceived about what they are buying and eating?
  - 31835843 4y ago
  - oregano 4y ago
    Of course I see a problem. Transparency should always be a top priority. My intention was not to disagree with you, just to provide a different lens to view this. After all, are most American consumers aware of the conditions in which the animals they eat are raised (what they are fed, how they are treated, what types of drugs they are given, how long they live, general quality of life, etc…)? I believe this is just as important as what gets printed on a label.
  - mike00632 4y ago
    Do you realize that almost everyone who buys animal products is being tricked into doing so? It's critical that food companies keep people in the dark about how animal products are made.
- myvoiceismypass 4y ago
  Also, it is never a bad thing to actually read the labels of the food one stuffs into their body.

Ekaros 4y ago

I would love to start product line "Beyond Vegan" with tag line of "better than vegan food" with Vegan word being very big. And then have it contain lot of meat. Entirely honest and not in any way misleading marketing. And no vegan should be able to complain.

mvdwoord 4y ago
Perfect illustration! Thanks.
HermanMartinus 4y ago
I think this is misleading in the effect is has. Omnivores still eat non-meat products, but the inverse isn't true and is in-fact pretty fucked up (if the person being deceived believes that eating beef is akin to eating dogs). I agree that products shouldn't be deceptive, but this is a false dichotomy. More accurately the example should be "Beef Burger", then have it written in small "(dog meat)" as (at least in the West) even meat eaters don't like the idea of eating dogs.
- Ekaros 4y ago
  Both beef and canine meat are from mammals. There isn't really much difference between those. Ofc reasonable labelling is reasonable to expect. But they are still meat and nearly every human including vegans can perfectly well eat either. Same does not apply to companies that try to mislead people by calling something not meat meat or cheese or so on.
  - wumpus 4y ago
    > nearly every human including vegans can perfectly well eat either. If you haven't eaten meat for decades, you will probably become violently ill if you eat meat.
    - Ekaros 4y ago
      So like vegan products that have similar effects? And then some people don't even offer right diets to either group...

cameronh90 4y ago

I am veg and I recently accidentally bought and ate a real duck wrap because it looked (and tasted) almost identical to the vegan duck wrap. However, I am just generally not very observant. I frequently buy sparkling water by accident.

tvaughan 4y ago

> t's just a bunch of people who are sour or feel threatened by meat alternatives Kast, a right-wing populist politician in Chile, made a big stink during his failed presidential bid over "Not Milk." He said only milk from "happy cows" should be promoted. These so-called proponents of the free market sure do hate competition. https://www.cnnchile.com/pais/kast-critico-notmilk-necesitamos-potenciar-leche-natural-vaca-feliz_20211118/ https://www.cnnchile.com/pais/kast-critico-notmilk-necesitam...

wumpus 4y ago
Demonizing minorities, especially unpopular minorities, is not a good sign in a politician.